milo
Jack L. Jones
£30m would be madness. He's worth closer to half that
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John Stones
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£30m would be madness. He's worth closer to half that
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indianspur
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how many??
Vega
Neil Sullivan
The English premium. Plus his age. You are working on Levy prices not market rates!
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
He is over 6ft tall
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
Cant comment on the goal sum but you cud also add that Benteke is a proven international too who plays in a premium position
Vega
Neil Sullivan
I think Benteke is reasonable at £32.5m, never said otherwise myself. Averages a goal every other game, just wouldnt be out no.1 striker and seems to think he will be ahead of Ings and Sturridge at Liverpool? We would never pay that money, Liverpool continue to pay big money because in their head only they are still a big club, they have delusions of grandeur or the footballing equivalent of penis envy.
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
On a serious note...
Dier has shown flexibility in his ply by playing right back
A great attitude IMO by pulling out of he under 21s once to focus on getting his game better
A good passing range and an eye for goal (looking at his assist an goal return last season)
Yes he did make mistakes and arguably doesn't have huge physical presence but he is till physically maturing you would argue
What has Stones shown that Dier hasn't and vice versa?
Dier has shown flexibility in his ply by playing right back
A great attitude IMO by pulling out of he under 21s once to focus on getting his game better
A good passing range and an eye for goal (looking at his assist an goal return last season)
Yes he did make mistakes and arguably doesn't have huge physical presence but he is till physically maturing you would argue
What has Stones shown that Dier hasn't and vice versa?
milo
Jack L. Jones
Nah, £30m is mental for a player who has done nothing
Vega
Neil Sullivan
I always think he is a good 3-4 inches too small and could do with bulking out a bit.
now's not the time to be talking about your package mate
ALtottenham_hotspur
Jamie Redknapp
Football is all about opinions, if I had the choice of either Stones or Dier it would be Stones all day long. The fact that Southgate picked him ahead of Dier for the Euro's and the fact Chelsea are making a bid for Stones I think backs my argument that he's a better player (again all about opinions).
FOR ME Stones is more comfortable with the ball at his feet and would suit partnering Cahill in defence. Cahill being the hard man, Stones being the one to bring the ball out of defence.
On your point on the previous page I know Stones only played 1 game at the Euro's but he looked a different class to Moore and Gibson.
Only time will tell who has the better career
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
Fair comments although I would add that Moore and Gibson were the worse centre backs I've seen in along time in any England side
I disagree regarding the fact Chelsea are rumoured to be willing to pay that amount... There an oil club with money to burn literally so what they would pay and what market value is are miles apart.
Southgate picked him as he played most of the qualifiers and he wasn't happy with dier pulling out earlier in the season. Really bad call watching the games but it was his call.
Let's see how be does this season as I don't think he will be sold
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
Correction folks, it should have read 49 goals in 101 matches not 79, I just noticed the typo
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
Indeed, people for get Anthony Gardner and Ledley King are the same age, in the early days at just 20 Gardner looked like he had something there, just like Ledley
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
Also, last season the press had a hard on for Caluum Chambers and we were told that Chambers was the future. Every other day it was Chambers this and Chambers that, now not so much. 
IMO stones def worth it .. If people could wind back clock would they have liked Spurs to have bid 15m for Rio when at West Ham ?? Stones going same way .. So composed tall fast great reader of game . Huge potential .. And in terms of been English in terms of home grown and all that another added advantage .. I'm just hoping Spurs get 4th at least this season coming and get bale and stones next summer lol... I know ... I know ...
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
What doesn't Dier have on that list?
Not comparing and contrasting... dier is a fine young player as well but I'd still be trying to sign stones but he will go to the money .. We had our chance when he left Barnsley and he choose Everton so our chance has gone in that respect .. If u asking me difference I think stones more accomplished on ball and quicker I think
I'll repeat what I said when chich was banging the drum for Charlton's Gomez prior to his Liverpool move: we don't need another young centre back.
We already have two young centre backs in the first team squad - Dier and Wimmer - and we have two outstanding prospects in Veljkovic and 2CV coming up through the ranks. I am convinced that neither of the latter two would let us down if called upon this season. And they could both grow to be every bit as good as, or even better than, Stones.
We can't stockpile players. And we mustn't block the path to the first team for our highly promising youth graduates. We aren't Chelsea.
So regardless that Stones is a very good young player, we don't need him. We have other priorities.
(Not that there is a hope in hell that we could sign him even if we wanted to)
We already have two young centre backs in the first team squad - Dier and Wimmer - and we have two outstanding prospects in Veljkovic and 2CV coming up through the ranks. I am convinced that neither of the latter two would let us down if called upon this season. And they could both grow to be every bit as good as, or even better than, Stones.
We can't stockpile players. And we mustn't block the path to the first team for our highly promising youth graduates. We aren't Chelsea.
So regardless that Stones is a very good young player, we don't need him. We have other priorities.
(Not that there is a hope in hell that we could sign him even if we wanted to)