Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Boro's parmo (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmo) wins hands down. Absolutely double drop of a heartattack
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How do you rank English clubs in size
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johnola
Mauricio Taricco
What about Huddersfield and Preston if you are going way back?
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
That does look tasty.
However.....large parmo with chips and salad they tested contained about 2,600 calories and 150g of fat.
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
Fans - are we talking volume? Or how clamy they are?
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
1. United
2. Liverpool
3. Arsenal
4. Emirates Marketing Project
5. Chelsea
6. Spurs
7. Villa
8. Everton
9. Saudi Sportswashing Machine
10. West Ham
2. Liverpool
3. Arsenal
4. Emirates Marketing Project
5. Chelsea
6. Spurs
7. Villa
8. Everton
9. Saudi Sportswashing Machine
10. West Ham
Craig_J
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Villa have won a european cup.
They are arguably above us and/or Everton. Not saying they are but there's an argument there.
They are way above West Ham
How Wolves and Blackburn on that list but not Forrest with 2 European cups?
They are arguably above us and/or Everton. Not saying they are but there's an argument there.
They are way above West Ham
How Wolves and Blackburn on that list but not Forrest with 2 European cups?
Craig_J
Eidur Gudjohnsen
If I had to rank:
Over the course of history I'd say:
1) Liverpool
2) Man United
3) Arsenal
4) Chelsea
5) Emirates Marketing Project
6) Spurs
7) Villa
8) Everton
9) Forrest
10) Wolves
With the ranking of Spurs, Villa and Everton being the most debatable and interchangeable.
I'd place number and importance of honours as the most important factor. Followed by fan base.
Over the course of history I'd say:
1) Liverpool
2) Man United
3) Arsenal
4) Chelsea
5) Emirates Marketing Project
6) Spurs
7) Villa
8) Everton
9) Forrest
10) Wolves
With the ranking of Spurs, Villa and Everton being the most debatable and interchangeable.
I'd place number and importance of honours as the most important factor. Followed by fan base.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
3 league titles a piece to Forest's 1 was the main logic. 4 and 6 FA cups to Forest's 2 too.
greatwhitenorf
Vedran Corluka
Without modern day financial doping:
Man U
Liverpool
Arsenal
Spurs
Everton
Aston Villa
- all clubs in the group above historically have had large, organically-generated domestic fan bases. Still strong today with broader int'l appeal.
Chelsea (before Abramovich they were Fulham with a bit more money but no taste or brains. With Boehly, same deal)
Emirates Marketing Project (The Maine Rd. Hillbillies until Jed Clampett struck oil. Feared but neither loved nor respected. Highly disposable item for plastic fans)
Saudi Sportswashing Machine (Huge locally, not so huge internationally)
West Ham (Millwall with a bit more money but no taste or brains)
Leeds (could be huge with proper ownership)
Nottingham Forest (yes, great Euro success at one time but not a huge club)
The. Rest.
Man U
Liverpool
Arsenal
Spurs
Everton
Aston Villa
- all clubs in the group above historically have had large, organically-generated domestic fan bases. Still strong today with broader int'l appeal.
Chelsea (before Abramovich they were Fulham with a bit more money but no taste or brains. With Boehly, same deal)
Emirates Marketing Project (The Maine Rd. Hillbillies until Jed Clampett struck oil. Feared but neither loved nor respected. Highly disposable item for plastic fans)
Saudi Sportswashing Machine (Huge locally, not so huge internationally)
West Ham (Millwall with a bit more money but no taste or brains)
Leeds (could be huge with proper ownership)
Nottingham Forest (yes, great Euro success at one time but not a huge club)
The. Rest.
Craig_J
Eidur Gudjohnsen
I can understand that. They have been more inconsistent There is a an argument as well that the old European cup format was much simpler than it is now too.
Personally I’d still say European success should count by a factor of 2.0 at least but it’s complicated to work out.
Things get even more interesting if we consider what clubs were doped. Like any argument to have Blackburn there would have to take into account their financial doping.
As an outside suggestion could be Wanderers FC as well. Extinct for 137 years but 5 FA Cups in the 27 years they were active for
jts1882
Dean Richards
Sunderland were known as the Bank of England club after WWII (not that it bought them titles).
But it seems they were not the first so labelled. It was used for Arsenal, Everton, Aston Villa and Blackpool in the 1930s.
en.wikipedia.org
But it seems they were not the first so labelled. It was used for Arsenal, Everton, Aston Villa and Blackpool in the 1930s.
Bank of England club - Wikipedia
jts1882
Dean Richards
Man United
Liverpool
Arsenal
Chelsea
Everton
Aston Villa
Emirates Marketing Project (undoped)
Saudi Sportswashing Machine
West Ham
I'm not going to place Spurs (too biased) or the doped Emirates Marketing Project (too soon to evaluate, cf. 115 charges).
I think the top three is clear. Chelsea (before Abramovich) were having a good decade under some progressive managers, albeit they may have gone bust. Everton and Villa had won more but more distantly. Sunderland, Leeds and Forest perhaps have claims depending on how heavily you rank the PL era.
Liverpool
Arsenal
Chelsea
Everton
Aston Villa
Emirates Marketing Project (undoped)
Saudi Sportswashing Machine
West Ham
I'm not going to place Spurs (too biased) or the doped Emirates Marketing Project (too soon to evaluate, cf. 115 charges).
I think the top three is clear. Chelsea (before Abramovich) were having a good decade under some progressive managers, albeit they may have gone bust. Everton and Villa had won more but more distantly. Sunderland, Leeds and Forest perhaps have claims depending on how heavily you rank the PL era.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
You can’t just casually say “albeit likely to go bust”! They were a day away from going in to administration, the whole decade you are acclaiming is based on the very reason you are excluding City. Take the spending away and they’d have continued to be a yo-yo club.
Sorry but if you are excluding City then you have to exclude Chelsea in afraid.
We almost went bust under scholar. Liverpool got seized by the banks and sold on.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
So why not just include City then?
Think our financial issue was slightly different to paying out way beyond our means on transfers and wages for a decade wasn’t it? (Edit: that’s a genuine question, I don’t remember the reasons, was a bit too young)
There was loads of dodgy stuff going on. The east stand, scholars other businesses. Paying players offshore to get around tax...
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Yes financial irregularities / tax dodges etc is what I had in my mind.
So a bit different to being bank rolled in order to win stuff like Chelsea or City have been. Although I get the offshore payments to players could be put in that category. On such a ridiculously smaller scale though.
We were talking abou chelsea under bates i thought? That's when they almost went into administration.