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Have We Got The Worst Atmosphere In The Country

carl said:
I was having a similar conversation with my 16 year old son on the way back from the game Saturday.

I dont know if it's an age thing with me and maybe being nostalgic but I just find football (most games, not just spurs) really really boring. Feels like something had changed these last few years with every team playing the same boring way, ref blowing for nothing fouls every minute, players wasting time, var etc.

I think back to the days when we were really brick (late 90's, early 2000's) and even then there were plenty of moments that got you out of your seat, something to get the crowd going. Would never have dreamt of missing a game then and would watch what ever games were live on sky. I dont even watch MOTD now
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Great post.👏
 
tommysvr said:
I think the crowd part has changed massively though. Is it to do with that fact that we've now got instant gratification at our fingertips? Watch literally whatever content you want whenever you want, order something to be delivered within 6 hours etc. Football does not provide that at all. Football makes you work for the gratification, and those moments are typically very rare. That should make them more special, but instead I think it just makes the 'journey' to get there even more frustrating for many people.
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On top of this people are able to dwell on and toil over the negativity for longer - be that via forums or social media - probably sets the mindset of supporters going in to matches before a ball has already been kicked.
 
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billyiddo said:
On top of this people are able to dwell on and toil over the negativity for longer - be that via forums or social media - probably sets the midset of supporters going in to matches before a ball has already been kicked.
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Was you at the Chelsea game? I wasn't, but on the tv it came across as a flat atmosphere from the very first minute - I appreciate that it can sound different being at the ground, but didn't seem to be the atmosphere you would expect for one of our biggest home games of the season....
 
harr1984 said:
Was you at the Chelsea game? I wasn't, but on the tv it came across as a flat atmosphere from the very first minute - I appreciate that it can sound different being at the ground, but didn't seem to be the atmosphere you would expect for one of our biggest home games of the season....
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Yes and it was very flat from the beginning (sit in the South Stand)
 
balesleftboot said:
It's another thing to not like about modern football tbh. When I was going to Spurs in the 90s and we were finishing midtable most seasons there was none of this booing your own team rubbish.
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I just wonder where peoples self pride has gone where they feel that they no longer wanna turn up and be the best version of the support they can be. Its just now a handbook of excuses.......
 
When it was a 5p bus fare and 50p or £1 to get into a game we went for the laugh and a day out with your mates. The average age of the crowd was more than 20 years younger than today (20yrs +/- 2 years).

A Premier League game, travel, food and drink etc is £120-150 day out. The average age of the attending fans is now circa 42 with 19% over 65.

The powers that be have gentrified the atmosphere out of the Premier League.
 
It is clear that the side don't like playing at home. Can you blame them? The pressure is so high at home, patience is so short, and there is little encouragment with your own fans booing you. Frank was right, we were still in the game late on, but fans were more interesting in complaining and booing than supporting!
 
Grays_1890 said:
Its fine when like anything, its organic. Problem is everyones trying to force weird gimmicks now which are IMO detracting from the actual atmosphere
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I 100% agree with the dislike of gimmicks BUT are they detracting from the atmosphere...ie what atmosphere?
And is that why they are brought in in the first place?.
 
balesleftboot said:
It's another thing to not like about modern football tbh. When I was going to Spurs in the 90s and we were finishing midtable most seasons there was none of this booing your own team rubbish.
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Grays_1890 said:
I just wonder where peoples self pride has gone where they feel that they no longer wanna turn up and be the best version of the support they can be. Its just now a handbook of excuses.......
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SirPercyHotspur said:
Not just so called Spurs fans at the weekend, lots of boo hooing at Southampton, Norwich and Leicester matches, aren't you supposed to support your team regardless.
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SpurMeUp said:
It is clear that the side don't like playing at home. Can you blame them? The pressure is so high at home, patience is so short, and there is little encouragment with your own fans booing you. Frank was right, we were still in the game late on, but fans were more interesting in complaining and booing than supporting!
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The times they are a-changin'
 
For the club, I'd do this shorter-term:

- Work with fan groups to get a singing section in the South Stand. There is a bank of expensive seats in the middle isn't there, but that shouldn't stop the rest of the stand being a wall of sound - that was the vision!!!

- See if they can lower the lighting in the stands during the two halfs. Would make it more intimate and improve the atmosphere possibly. What do you think?

- Look into inserting an all-standing singing section next to the away fans section, possibly with concessions for under 35s.

- As part of the Spurs App and Auto-Emails, ticketing process, publish the new approved songs as fans are setting off for a game - a few hours before. Hype people up in-app, online pre-game with videos, and a togetherness to shove it to...team of the day. Light the touch paper.


Longer term:

- Review the more expensive seats in the South, and try to get higher paying hardcore fans in them. Market them as singing intense seats, and people will pay and sing!

- I'd also look at making the seats less spacious! How much extra capacity would be added with an extra seat per row? Obviously not one for now, but when seats need replacing. Having a more tight knit fanbase is preferable, would help with the atmosphere imo, and increase capacity.


Just a starter to raise some debate. The Club CAN lead and shold work with fans groups to improve the experience, and make going to a Spurs game a pilgrimage. A right of passage, and leave fans feeling part of something sensational that they and the club have created.
 
SpurMeUp said:
For the club, I'd do this shorter-term:

- Work with fan groups to get a singing section in the South Stand. There is a bank of expensive seats in the middle isn't there, but that shouldn't stop the rest of the stand being a wall of sound - that was the vision!!!

- See if they can lower the lighting in the stands during the two halfs. Would make it more intimate and improve the atmosphere possibly. What do you think?

- Look into inserting an all-standing singing section next to the away fans section, possibly with concessions for under 35s.

- As part of the Spurs App and Auto-Emails, ticketing process, publish the new approved songs as fans are setting off for a game - a few hours before. Hype people up in-app, online pre-game with videos, and a togetherness to shove it to...team of the day. Light the touch paper.


Longer term:

- Review the more expensive seats in the South, and try to get higher paying hardcore fans in them. Market them as singing intense seats, and people will pay and sing!

- I'd also look at making the seats less spacious! How much extra capacity would be added with an extra seat per row? Obviously not one for now, but when seats need replacing. Having a more tight knit fanbase is preferable, would help with the atmosphere imo, and increase capacity.


Just a starter to raise some debate. The Club CAN lead and shold work with fans groups to improve the experience, and make going to a Spurs game a pilgrimage. A right of passage, and leave fans feeling part of something sensational that they and the club have created.
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I'd make both ends fully standing. That would possibly make those areas more affordable and also perhaps push some of the older gentlemen to the comfort of the sides.
 
Gutter Boy said:
I'd make both ends fully standing. That would possibly make those areas more affordable and also perhaps push some of the older gentlemen to the comfort of the sides.
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I agree...I think getting more youngsters in, which is only achieved by making it more affordable, is the likeliest way of seeing a change.

Otherwise you're up against, whatever the fudge is going on in general society, and trying to work that out.
 
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