metalgear
Nayim
night and day difference. i wonder why.
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Harry Kane MBE
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AjaxDeSuperYids
Drama queen
Either we are all reading him wrong or if there is something in it, it can only be that he has been told someone like QSI is coming in we will have an extra £1bn to spend on players over up coming transfer windows.
AjaxDeSuperYids
Drama queen
My understanding is the community shield, european super cup and club world cup are all competitive games not friendly’s, however all of them are not classed as major trophies.
But say that quietly as we need to count our 7 community shields highly due to how pathetic we have been in any competition for numerous decades.
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Sounds like you think you might know. Any theories?
Denmark Spur
Edgar Davids
What a great piece by Oliver Holt
OLIVER HOLT: Harry Kane deserves to be recognised as a legend
Soon, more records will fall. For now, all the talk is of Harry Kane and Jimmy Greaves and the record of 266 goals for Spurs that the two men now share. But when Kane scores three more top-flight goals, he will move past the mark of 201 set by Denis Law.
Law was known as The King at Old Trafford. There is a statue of him outside Manchester United's stadium. Kane is keeping the company of legends now.
It is about time we recognised that one of the jewels of English football history is still in his prime and playing in our midst.
Star striker Harry Kane has moved level with Jimmy Greaves as Tottenham's all-time top scorer
As Kane continues to glide alongside the greatest goalscorers in the game for his country and for his club, as records seem to fall with every swing of his right boot, as we talk about 53 for England and 266 for Spurs and Alan Shearer's 260 that waits out there in the future, Kane plays from week to week like a prophet in his own land, still not given the respect he deserves in this country, in particular.
Too often, he is damned with faint praise. Too often, it seems we do not quite realise what we have in him and the special talent that is in our midst. Because the truth is that, if narrow club jealousies are put aside, Kane deserves to be considered not just as one of the best strikers in the world but as one of the best players in the world.
Maybe we have got blasé because Kane just keeps on scoring. But he is a phenomenon. We rightly revere forwards like Nat Lofthouse, Stan Mortensen, Shearer and Gary Lineker as masters of their craft and players who hold a special place in our football history.
Kane has surpassed all of them in goals scored for England and is closing in fast on the few that remain ahead of him at club level, too.
The Tottenham star will soon beat Wayne Rooney's tally of 53 international goals for England
His goal for Spurs against Fulham on Monday night was his 266th for his club, equalling the mark set by Greaves. If he is not rested, he may break the record at Deepdale, one of the great old venues of English football, when Tottenham play Preston North End there in the FA Cup on Saturday.
He is still adding to his legend every week. The next time he scores for England, he will stand alone, above Wayne Rooney, as the country's leading scorer. The next time he scores in the Premier League, it will be his 200th goal in the competition.
Whenever you get to watch Kane play live, you have got one of the best tickets in football. Way back when you could pay on the door to nudge through the turnstile, fans would have queued round the block for a chance to see him play.
It is indisputable that his reputation has suffered because he has played his entire career at Spurs at a time when they have only rarely challenged for the top honours both domestically and abroad and when he has been denied the oxygen of showpiece occasions.
There has been no place for Kane among the shark suits and fake smiles at the court of Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, otherwise known as the Ballon d'Or ceremony.
The striker has become a reliable source of goals under England head coach Gareth Southgate
Kane has always somehow been unfashionable. He has always been an outsider in that gilded world of elite footballers. He has never quite been granted the respect afforded to players like Robert Lewandowski or Antoine Griezmann, say. Much of that, too, is down to the fact that he has not graced the stages they have graced or played regularly in the latter stages of the Champions League.
Kane bears comparison with any of them. He is not just the best number 9 that England has. He is the best number 10 that England has, too. Watch Kane and you see a player who strikes the ball as cleanly and as viciously as any forward you ever glimpsed.
Watch Kane and you see one of the best creative talents in the game, a player with vision and craft and touch and an intuitive awareness of space and the movement of others.
Yes, he scores goals. Lots and lots of goals. He has been the Premier League's leading goalscorer three times already and when he is not the leading goalscorer, he is not far behind. But he is so much more than a goalscorer. He exhibits the selfishness of a striker sometimes but he has the instincts of a team player, too.
Kane, 29, does not get the same Ballon d'Or recognition as Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi
Roy Hodgson, the former England manager, was mocked at Euro 2016 for asking Kane to take corners at a time when England seemed particularly toothless in attack.
The criticism was understandable but it hid the truth that Kane was not only England's best striker and number 10 but their best crosser of the ball, too. He has spent much of his career carrying teams. At Spurs, he is still doing it now.
Some contend that the fact he has never won a major trophy invalidates his claim to be considered among the greatest players but others see romance and worth in the fact he has played for the same team for his entire career.
Most of his rivals in the goalscoring charts play for title contenders. Kane has scored his goals playing for a good team but not a great one. Many would say each strike counts more in circumstances like that.
Somehow, it feels right to talk about Kane in the same breath as great strikers like Lofthouse and Mortensen.
There is something old-fashioned about him. He does not make headlines for the wrong reasons. He is a dedicated professional who loves the game for itself and who has won his laurels the hard way, via loans at places like Leyton Orient, Millwall, Norwich and Leicester. He has not had anything handed to him. He has gone out and seized it.
After the game at Craven Cottage, he stood in front of a screen talking to the Sky Sports presenters about the strike that had drawn him level with Greaves.
The presenter, Dave Jones, noted that Kane had not looked up before he shot. 'I've been playing football long enough now to know where the goal is,' Kane said, with a smile. And we have been watching him long enough to recognise greatness when we see it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...LT-Harry-Kane-deserves-recognised-legend.html
OLIVER HOLT: Harry Kane deserves to be recognised as a legend
Soon, more records will fall. For now, all the talk is of Harry Kane and Jimmy Greaves and the record of 266 goals for Spurs that the two men now share. But when Kane scores three more top-flight goals, he will move past the mark of 201 set by Denis Law.
Law was known as The King at Old Trafford. There is a statue of him outside Manchester United's stadium. Kane is keeping the company of legends now.
It is about time we recognised that one of the jewels of English football history is still in his prime and playing in our midst.
Star striker Harry Kane has moved level with Jimmy Greaves as Tottenham's all-time top scorer
As Kane continues to glide alongside the greatest goalscorers in the game for his country and for his club, as records seem to fall with every swing of his right boot, as we talk about 53 for England and 266 for Spurs and Alan Shearer's 260 that waits out there in the future, Kane plays from week to week like a prophet in his own land, still not given the respect he deserves in this country, in particular.
Too often, he is damned with faint praise. Too often, it seems we do not quite realise what we have in him and the special talent that is in our midst. Because the truth is that, if narrow club jealousies are put aside, Kane deserves to be considered not just as one of the best strikers in the world but as one of the best players in the world.
Maybe we have got blasé because Kane just keeps on scoring. But he is a phenomenon. We rightly revere forwards like Nat Lofthouse, Stan Mortensen, Shearer and Gary Lineker as masters of their craft and players who hold a special place in our football history.
Kane has surpassed all of them in goals scored for England and is closing in fast on the few that remain ahead of him at club level, too.
The Tottenham star will soon beat Wayne Rooney's tally of 53 international goals for England
His goal for Spurs against Fulham on Monday night was his 266th for his club, equalling the mark set by Greaves. If he is not rested, he may break the record at Deepdale, one of the great old venues of English football, when Tottenham play Preston North End there in the FA Cup on Saturday.
He is still adding to his legend every week. The next time he scores for England, he will stand alone, above Wayne Rooney, as the country's leading scorer. The next time he scores in the Premier League, it will be his 200th goal in the competition.
Whenever you get to watch Kane play live, you have got one of the best tickets in football. Way back when you could pay on the door to nudge through the turnstile, fans would have queued round the block for a chance to see him play.
It is indisputable that his reputation has suffered because he has played his entire career at Spurs at a time when they have only rarely challenged for the top honours both domestically and abroad and when he has been denied the oxygen of showpiece occasions.
There has been no place for Kane among the shark suits and fake smiles at the court of Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, otherwise known as the Ballon d'Or ceremony.
The striker has become a reliable source of goals under England head coach Gareth Southgate
Kane has always somehow been unfashionable. He has always been an outsider in that gilded world of elite footballers. He has never quite been granted the respect afforded to players like Robert Lewandowski or Antoine Griezmann, say. Much of that, too, is down to the fact that he has not graced the stages they have graced or played regularly in the latter stages of the Champions League.
Kane bears comparison with any of them. He is not just the best number 9 that England has. He is the best number 10 that England has, too. Watch Kane and you see a player who strikes the ball as cleanly and as viciously as any forward you ever glimpsed.
Watch Kane and you see one of the best creative talents in the game, a player with vision and craft and touch and an intuitive awareness of space and the movement of others.
Yes, he scores goals. Lots and lots of goals. He has been the Premier League's leading goalscorer three times already and when he is not the leading goalscorer, he is not far behind. But he is so much more than a goalscorer. He exhibits the selfishness of a striker sometimes but he has the instincts of a team player, too.
Kane, 29, does not get the same Ballon d'Or recognition as Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi
Roy Hodgson, the former England manager, was mocked at Euro 2016 for asking Kane to take corners at a time when England seemed particularly toothless in attack.
The criticism was understandable but it hid the truth that Kane was not only England's best striker and number 10 but their best crosser of the ball, too. He has spent much of his career carrying teams. At Spurs, he is still doing it now.
Some contend that the fact he has never won a major trophy invalidates his claim to be considered among the greatest players but others see romance and worth in the fact he has played for the same team for his entire career.
Most of his rivals in the goalscoring charts play for title contenders. Kane has scored his goals playing for a good team but not a great one. Many would say each strike counts more in circumstances like that.
Somehow, it feels right to talk about Kane in the same breath as great strikers like Lofthouse and Mortensen.
There is something old-fashioned about him. He does not make headlines for the wrong reasons. He is a dedicated professional who loves the game for itself and who has won his laurels the hard way, via loans at places like Leyton Orient, Millwall, Norwich and Leicester. He has not had anything handed to him. He has gone out and seized it.
After the game at Craven Cottage, he stood in front of a screen talking to the Sky Sports presenters about the strike that had drawn him level with Greaves.
The presenter, Dave Jones, noted that Kane had not looked up before he shot. 'I've been playing football long enough now to know where the goal is,' Kane said, with a smile. And we have been watching him long enough to recognise greatness when we see it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...LT-Harry-Kane-deserves-recognised-legend.html
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Plenty enough on here have dissed him in the past, and there are one or two even now - I suspect you know who I'm getting at - who believe he is over the hill and/or is holding the team back and want him gone.
What's that saying? No prohet is accepted in his home town.
Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
A prophet is always welcome in Levy's house.
glasgowspur
Nayim
It's quite good that he's "sharing" the record with Greaves for a couple of days, i think they would both be quite pleased about that.
metalgear
Nayim
i have only theories to share (most of it end up as unpopular opinions here):
1. kane is toeing the corporate line like a good team player and leader but doesn't fully agree with conte's tactics hence less motivated
2. there is a lack of belief or worse, not real harmony amongnst the players - the inclusion of perisic and the different ways son and kane have to adapt, how kane was made provider for son last season - of course he wants to score and its near impossible to get two golden boot winners in the team (and son is a poor provider)
3. injuries - he needs to save himself to last three or four good years at the top
As to why he's come alive suddenly?
1. breaking club records - there's going to be a lot of anticipation and excitement around every record he breaks
2. showing whoever he cares he still has it in reserve
3. he really wants to cheer conte up (due to the series of deaths of close ones).
TBH i really don't know why.
To turn and shoot is really bread and butter even though there is always a risk of a hard tackle for a striker.
Maybe he has come around himself that his youtube reel for the 22-23 season is uninspiring compared to the seasons before.
All I know is that while he is out top scorer this season, he is also the reason why we are not scoring more (not just him) and Conte's 343 has proven to work
greatwhitenorf
Vedran Corluka
Because we're shockingly insecure?
The Daily Melee doesn't hesitate to mock Spurs, a relatively soft target they get away with picking on when they wouldn't dream of making similar levels of mischief with sacred cows like Arsenal or Liverpool. Holt's been critical of Spurs in the past, so, nice to read something nice about a Spurs player for once.
However, scroll about the site and they're indulging in the usual 'Kane transfer' tripe.
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Its not an article for us Tottenham supporters. It’s an article for everyone else that always criticise him as ‘Half Way Harry’, ‘not elite as he hasn’t won trophies’, ‘overrated’, ‘penalty merchant’ etc and I’m sure there are other adjectives that have been used by opposition supporters to downplay him. When the truth is that any team with Kane, their supporters would quickly love him and get right behind him because he’s an incredible player and has been throughout his career.
NorwegianSpursFan
Neil Ruddock
Fudge me that hammers home how complete he is. Thunderbolts, chip’s, tap ins, headers, curlers, one on ones, left foot, right foot and everything else. Best player I’ve seen in a Spurs shirt.Fudge me he’s scored some goals
Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
One video clip wonder.Fudge me he’s scored some goals
Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
One free kick!
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
You are a true cynic, my friend.
I'd say it's nothing more than human nature to find that extra spring in your step when nearing such a major watershed moment.
Sad you cannot - or won't - offer even a smidgeon of recognition for his achievement.
But, hey ho.
JerusalemMan
Johnny Morrison
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
I too was there the day Jimmy made his fairy-tale debut and still recall my astonishment and wonder at that bicycle kick goal.
Yes, Greavsie was a phenomenon, a one-off, but please don't ask me to choose between him and Kane. Conditions were starkly different in so many ways it makes comparison fultile. I'd put them both on a pedal stool alongside the likes of Blanchflower, Mackay, Cliff Jones, Jennings, Hoddle, Waddle, Gascoigne, Bale et al.
Yes, Greavsie was a phenomenon, a one-off, but please don't ask me to choose between him and Kane. Conditions were starkly different in so many ways it makes comparison fultile. I'd put them both on a pedal stool alongside the likes of Blanchflower, Mackay, Cliff Jones, Jennings, Hoddle, Waddle, Gascoigne, Bale et al.
johnola
Mauricio Taricco
Amazing you were there for Greaves’ debut.
Okay I will ask a different question - could they have played up front together?