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Financial Fair Play

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That's a £50m a year shirt deal. fudge a duck!!

8 year deal on its fricken training ground and add ons worth £18.75m a year

Hell I'd love that deal on our stadium and first team shirts let alone the training ground and training shirts. Ridiculous figures.

Must surely mean that our figures will rise too, and the stadium naming rights must reach over 150m.
 
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We punch above our weight with shirt deals etc. We'll get another record breaking deal next time round for us and we'll do really well with the stadium.
 
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Superhudd said:
That's a £50m a year shirt deal. fudge a duck!!

8 year deal on its fricken training ground and add ons worth £18.75m a year

Hell I'd love that deal on our stadium and first team shirts let alone the training ground and training shirts. Ridiculous figures.

Must surely mean that our figures will rise too, and the stadium naming rights must reach over 150m.
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The General Motors executive who agreed a record shirt sponsorship deal with Manchester United worth a staggering £175million has been sacked.

Global marketing chief Joel Ewanick was axed less than 48 hours after it was announced the Chevrolet badge would be emblazoned on the United shirt from next season.

The agreement will net the Reds £25million a year for the duration of the seven-year contract.

But GM executives were furious when they learned their company would be paying £6m a year more than United’s current shirt sponsors Aon.

It has also been claimed Ewanick failed to give his bosses the full details of the sponsorship before signing the deal.

GM have assured the Old Trafford club that they will not renege on the agreement.

But Ewanick’s removal is still a huge embarrassment for United.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/general-motors-exec-who-agreed-1218826
 
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*Sigh* Financial play will only be 'fair' when some sort of redistributive system is brought into play to reduce the giant differences in the revenues of the elite and the non-elite, but I can't see that ever happening. Especially when even many fans seem not to think that would be fair or desirable or necessary.
 
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Man utd are simply on another financial planet now....

if they come knocking for Bale, the price has gone up. 120 mill and not a penny less.

Fcuk 'em,
 
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Selling the rights to the training ground? What a con.

What's next, sell the rights to the hotdog vendor's cart outside the ground for a billion?

This lot are worse than Emirates Marketing Project.
 
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Bullet said:
Selling the rights to the training ground? What a con.

What's next, sell the rights to the hotdog vendor's cart outside the ground for a billion?

This lot are worse than Emirates Marketing Project.
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like selling the rights to the bar to carlsberg...
 
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elltrev said:
*Sigh* Financial play will only be 'fair' when some sort of redistributive system is brought into play to reduce the giant differences in the revenues of the elite and the non-elite, but I can't see that ever happening. Especially when even many fans seem not to think that would be fair or desirable or necessary.
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Exactly.

I've been banging this drum for a while now.

But some people refuse to see the inevitable consequence of UEFA's and the Premier League's so called Financial Fair Play rules.

It will mean only one thing - that the really big clubs will only get bigger and leave the rest ever further behind. FFP will, in fact, apply the final coup de grace to genuine financial fair play.

United can sign such a deal because they are already so huge. Other than Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea, I can't believe that many other clubs would be able to persuade a commercial partner to sponsor their training ground and training gear at all. The few that can will earn peanuts by comparison.

Spurs will do well to get £10 million per annum for their stadium naming rights! And we get a maximum of £15 million per annum for our proper shirt sponsorship. We are so far behind the likes of Man Utd in this respect, it is laughable. And we are far, far better off than the majority of clubs.

And make no mistake, Utd have barely scratched the surface of their commercial potential. Along with the remainder of European football's elite, they are laughing their arses off at having persuaded UEFA (and the Premier League) to adopt rules that will prevent their hegemony from ever again being threatened by upstart clubs with wealthy and ambitious owners.
 
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Bullet said:
Selling the rights to the training ground? What a con.

What's next, sell the rights to the hotdog vendor's cart outside the ground for a billion?

This lot are worse than Emirates Marketing Project.
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It's not a con.

AON have nothing to do with Man Utd. They have signed this deal because they see genuine value and commercial sense in it.

And, yes, I'm afraid that the hotdog stand (or something like it) could well be next in the pipeline for a major sponsorship deal. This is the way that these kind of commercial partnerships are going. Utd have signed a raft of them recently, earning the club huge money - including a partnership which sees an Indonesian company become their official tyre sponsor!
 
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jimmyb said:
Exactly.

I've been banging this drum for a while now.

But some people refuse to see the inevitable consequence of UEFA's and the Premier League's so called Financial Fair Play rules.

It will mean only one thing - that the really big clubs will only get bigger and leave the rest ever further behind. FFP will, in fact, apply the final coup de grace to genuine financial fair play.

United can sign such a deal because they are already so huge. Other than Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea, I can't believe that many other clubs would be able to persuade a commercial partner to sponsor their training ground and training gear at all. The few that can will earn peanuts by comparison.

Spurs will do well to get £10 million per annum for their stadium naming rights! And we get a maximum of £15 million per annum for our proper shirt sponsorship. We are so far behind the likes of Man Utd in this respect, it is laughable. And we are far, far better off than the majority of clubs.

And make no mistake, Utd have barely scratched the surface of their commercial potential. Along with the remainder of European football's elite, they are laughing their arses off at having persuaded UEFA (and the Premier League) to adopt rules that will prevent their hegemony from ever again being threatened by upstart clubs with wealthy and ambitious owners.
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Agreed, but at the same time I do hate Emirates Marketing Project, Chelsea, PSG etc for the way that they have been allowed to spend obscene amounts of money that the club itself hasn't earned. So for all the problems with FPP, I think the status quo was far from acceptable too. Which is why, in an ideal world, I'd like to see (in combination with the FPP rules) a form of tax on merchandise, sponsorship, gate receipts etc of the elite teams, which could either go towards smaller clubs or to development projects in the local area. It's disgusting how much money is in the game and how much money players get paid, whilst the local areas for some clubs remain poor and undeveloped and ticket and shirt prices continue to rise. I know football clubs already dedicate more of their revenues to this kind of thing than the average business, but football clubs are / should be more a part of their local community than businesses are.
 
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the financial disparity between the elite teams and the rest is too big......it will ruin the sport. No-one will want to see the same teams year after year contend for the big prizes
 
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indianspur said:
the financial disparity between the elite teams and the rest is too big......it will ruin the sport. No-one will want to see the same teams year after year contend for the big prizes
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So since the war this hasn't been the case then!
 
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jimmyb said:
Exactly.

I've been banging this drum for a while now.

But some people refuse to see the inevitable consequence of UEFA's and the Premier League's so called Financial Fair Play rules.

It will mean only one thing - that the really big clubs will only get bigger and leave the rest ever further behind. FFP will, in fact, apply the final coup de grace to genuine financial fair play.

United can sign such a deal because they are already so huge. Other than Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea, I can't believe that many other clubs would be able to persuade a commercial partner to sponsor their training ground and training gear at all. The few that can will earn peanuts by comparison.

Spurs will do well to get £10 million per annum for their stadium naming rights! And we get a maximum of £15 million per annum for our proper shirt sponsorship. We are so far behind the likes of Man Utd in this respect, it is laughable. And we are far, far better off than the majority of clubs.

And make no mistake, Utd have barely scratched the surface of their commercial potential. Along with the remainder of European football's elite, they are laughing their arses off at having persuaded UEFA (and the Premier League) to adopt rules that will prevent their hegemony from ever again being threatened by upstart clubs with wealthy and ambitious owners.
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:lol: [video=youtube_share;3MZCihq4hjA]http://youtu.be/3MZCihq4hjA[/video]
 
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The FFP does stop new sugar daddy but does little else to level the playing field. What would be a better solution?

What about setting a limit on the money spent on players and their wages, and that must exclude money garnered from these commercials arrangements (fake or real). So a club can only spend say it's gate receipts, tv money and prize money on new players and wages. That way the clubs revenue is more or less determined by it's fanbase size, and would also be rewarded for any success. Yes the big clubs have an advantage (as they are bigger already) but the football landscape would not be so skewed by commercials deals and sugar daddy money as to render competition almost irrelevant. Any other money the club makes can be spent on infrastructure etc.
 
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Rorschach said:
The FFP does stop new sugar daddy but does little else to level the playing field. What would be a better solution?

What about setting a limit on the money spent on players and their wages, and that must exclude money garnered from these commercials arrangements (fake or real). So a club can only spend say it's gate receipts, tv money and prize money on new players and wages. That way the clubs revenue is more or less determined by it's fanbase size, and would also be rewarded for any success. Yes the big clubs have an advantage (as they are bigger already) but the football landscape would not be so skewed by commercials deals and sugar daddy money as to render competition almost irrelevant. Any other money the club makes can be spent on infrastructure etc.
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It stops rich investors becoming owners, but it won't stop teams spending beyond their means, simply because of these massive sponsorship deals. I don't think it will be long until we see England's first 'Bayer Leverkusen' or 'Red Bull Salzburg'.
 
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SWP29 said:
It stops rich investors becoming owners, but it won't stop teams spending beyond their means, simply because of these massive sponsorship deals. I don't think it will be long until we see England's first 'Bayer Leverkusen' or 'Red Bull Salzburg'.
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Coventry City tried this back in the early 80s when they called themselves Coventry Talbot.

The Football League scuppered their plans though, although they let them keep their kit, which was a giant advertisement.
 
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THFC6061 said:
Coventry City tried this back in the early 80s when they called themselves Coventry Talbot.

The Football League scuppered their plans though, although they let them keep their kit, which was a giant advertisement.
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30 years ago is a long time. It's a different game now in many regards. Football is massive now. It's a financial goldmine, people will do anything to get a piece of it, including our own FA.

billyiddo said:
what's the deal there then?
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They're bankrolled by the pharmaceutical company Bayer. There is no better way of advertising in football than changing the team's name! Leverkusen and Salzburg are very much detested in Germany, but that won't stop it happening in England.
 
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never knew that about Leverkusen


Red Bull own/Sponsor about 10 clubs world wide i believe
 
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