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Finally!!! (it's a dj thing)

I'm curious to see how these iPad controllers work. I've got the Traktor Kontrol S4 and the thing's a massive beast, but this Numark controller looks pretty large as well judging by how small it makes the iPad look.

Waiting to get the redesigned maschine in about a month.

What kind of music do you DJ mostly?
 
I play pretty much everything (really everything!!) but I've got quite far playing specialist underground dance music.

Played DNB over a number of years and got a mighty vinyl collection - played alongside (and I mean peak time sets) kenny ken, heist, Darren jay, nicky blackmarket, Randall and Andy c.

Played old Skool hardcore and breaks back to when it wasn't old Skool, it was new lol - with this I've played alongside force and styles, slipmatt, Jamie rittmen, clarkee, Dougall and vibes.

Played 2 step garage with the usual suspects, luck and neat and pied piper.

Plus played house of many genres and trance, plus when I got paid good money to do it I played chart stuff. I played dub step a lot but never managed to sell it to the majority of people in my town so that's just a personal hobby plus I've played at rock and metal nights and in an indie bar. In other bars I've mixed basically everything above over a night in a pub that turns into a club as the night goes on.

Most times I played any form of underground dance in recent times I had mc junior pay me a visit and loved him joining in with my sets. RIP.

Oh yeah and I used to love gabba lol
 
I used to post mixes in here many years ago and they were received really well :)
 
Rob said:
I used to post mixes in here many years ago and they were received really well :)
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I'm very green around the gills when it comes to DJing, but even I can see some of the big names you've worked with.
I've been getting more into deep house/techno, but I enjoy DnB, dubstep, electro/tech-house, moombahton, etc. I've been practicing on and off for the past 2-3 years now and it's my #1 hobby now. I have never used analog turntables but would like to learn someday. I've got the beatmatching down, but sync makes my life a lot easier and allows me the time to tweak other things. Now, I'm getting back into putting the work into music discovery again, but the toughest thing for me so far is finding willing listeners that can critique my sets (besides my roommate, although I've been trying to teach him the trade).

Not sure if you saw this review for that numark controller. The volume knobs seem like they'd take some getting used to, but it looks like it's pretty solid from the photos. Also seems that it should be compatible with the new 9-pin iPads when the 30-pin gets phased out (via adapter).

If you have any mixes up on soundcloud or mixcloud, I will give them a listen. I still haven't played out much since I want to get my technique down (and living in the suburbs doesn't help much), but I try to go to shows as often as possible in NYC.
 
guys, what would be a good starting point to learn/practice mp3 mixing on the pc ?

papa - ever go to The Marcy ?
 
Rob said:
I play pretty much everything (really everything!!) but I've got quite far playing specialist underground dance music.

Played DNB over a number of years and got a mighty vinyl collection - played alongside (and I mean peak time sets) kenny ken, heist, Darren jay, nicky blackmarket, Randall and Andy c.

Played old Skool hardcore and breaks back to when it wasn't old Skool, it was new lol - with this I've played alongside force and styles, slipmatt, Jamie rittmen, clarkee, Dougall and vibes.

Played 2 step garage with the usual suspects, luck and neat and pied piper.

Plus played house of many genres and trance, plus when I got paid good money to do it I played chart stuff. I played dub step a lot but never managed to sell it to the majority of people in my town so that's just a personal hobby plus I've played at rock and metal nights and in an indie bar. In other bars I've mixed basically everything above over a night in a pub that turns into a club as the night goes on.

Most times I played any form of underground dance in recent times I had mc junior pay me a visit and loved him joining in with my sets. RIP.

Oh yeah and I used to love gabba lol
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What was your DJ name Rob ???
 
Jurgen the German said:
You were a DJ Paxton?
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Yeah, starting work for one of the local Dj's in Warrington (Geoff Carter), doing 21sts,Wedding Receptions,Anniversaries,etc

Then got offered a few midweek nights at the local Roller Rink, before getting the Friday and Saturday slots, did that for the rest of the 80s before it closed down in 1989.
Fun times
 
billyiddo said:
guys, what would be a good starting point to learn/practice mp3 mixing on the pc ?

papa - ever go to The Marcy ?
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I first started with Virtual DJ. Since then, the starter version has been made free to download from their site. Mostly functional, missing a few little things which I forget but won't really be necessary for someone starting off.
The only hardware at my disposal were my mouse and keyboard. I didn't even have a dedicated soundcard. Basically, I just experimented with playing two songs together and trying to mess with some of the EQ settings. I read a few web sites about what beatmatching and all the standard controls you'd find on a turntable+mixer (pitchbend, faders, how to mix using EQ). Also understanding some basic music theory will give you a good idea of where ideal mixing points is. Personally, I don't think it's necessary to learn beatmatching on vinyl, but I do think it will help you appreciate how records used to be mixed and give you a better understanding of mixing.

Many people will look down on you if you use sync, but honestly, this is the direction that DJing has been heading for a while now. Plus, if you're just beginning, sync will free you up to learn other mixing fundamentals while allowing you to create seamless mixes. On top of that, it's hard enough using just a keyboard and mouse. I'm sure there's a keybind guide out there, and if you enjoy DJing enough, I would advise getting a controller eventually.
I got a cheap-ish one with a built-in soundcard (hercules rmx) that got me started, but I eventually upgraded to the Traktor S4. Once you use one piece of software, all the others are similar enough for you to intuitively pick up on the fly, just taking time to note the nuances (like any other piece of software).

I haven't been to the marcy but I'll have to figure out how to get on the list since I heard they announce their parties 24 hours in advance.
 
papaspur said:
I'm curious to see how these iPad controllers work. I've got the Traktor Kontrol S4 and the thing's a massive beast, but this Numark controller looks pretty large as well judging by how small it makes the iPad look.

Waiting to get the redesigned maschine in about a month.

What kind of music do you DJ mostly?
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been toying with the idea of getting a traktor s2 for a while now, only for messing around at home. ‎been playing around with virtual dj ‎which is alright for basic house mixing but not much else, also ‎difficult to mix hip hop and d&b which requires cutting etc. ‎just doesn’t really work with a mouse or ‎touch pad! what's the software like? pretty intuitive?‎
 
NW5pur said:
been toying with the idea of getting a traktor s2 for a while now, only for messing around at home. ‎been playing around with virtual dj ‎which is alright for basic house mixing but not much else, also ‎difficult to mix hip hop and d&b which requires cutting etc. ‎just doesn’t really work with a mouse or ‎touch pad! what's the software like? pretty intuitive?‎
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Traktor is pretty great. The only things I miss from VDJ are the overlapping waveforms, key detection, and a few of the effects. But with the Traktor S4, I can chain up different effects, change loop size at the turn of a knob in addition to moving that loop with another knob. It's fairly intuitive but it is on the pricey side. I'm surprised they haven't really come down in price recently, but I'm sure they'll do that when they're ready to announce the next-gen traktor hardware (like they did with maschine).

The song browser has itunes integration, which finally forced me to organize my collection in itunes. The lack of key detection in traktor also 'forced' me to use mixed in key for key detection. Traktor also gives you the ability to beatgrid your songs since its beat-detection is generally good, but not perfect. I do appreciate the fact that NI makes fairly frequent updates, and as an S4 owner, I haven't paid for a single software update. I'm not too bullish on the F1, but I already have a few sample decks/3rd&4th deck with the S4. Depending on your mixing style, two decks should be enough and the hardware is pretty solid. Some of the knobs have gotten a little loose after standard use.

I've never used Serato so I can't compare to that, but I feel a bit more "pro" using traktor over virtual dj.
 
papaspur said:
I'm very green around the gills when it comes to DJing, but even I can see some of the big names you've worked with.
I've been getting more into deep house/techno, but I enjoy DnB, dubstep, electro/tech-house, moombahton, etc. I've been practicing on and off for the past 2-3 years now and it's my #1 hobby now. I have never used analog turntables but would like to learn someday. I've got the beatmatching down, but sync makes my life a lot easier and allows me the time to tweak other things. Now, I'm getting back into putting the work into music discovery again, but the toughest thing for me so far is finding willing listeners that can critique my sets (besides my roommate, although I've been trying to teach him the trade).

Not sure if you saw this review for that numark controller. The volume knobs seem like they'd take some getting used to, but it looks like it's pretty solid from the photos. Also seems that it should be compatible with the new 9-pin iPads when the 30-pin gets phased out (via adapter).

If you have any mixes up on soundcloud or mixcloud, I will give them a listen. I still haven't played out much since I want to get my technique down (and living in the suburbs doesn't help much), but I try to go to shows as often as possible in NYC.
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I've been waiting for a guy to finish doing my website for ages now - he's got a few discs with sets on to put online plus the most important thing is that he will be putting some code in so you have to share my mixes on Facebook or twitter to listen to them. Also I've given him an 8 minute mix to play in the background of the about me page...

www.djrobwilde.com

billyiddo said:
guys, what would be a good starting point to learn/practice mp3 mixing on the pc ?

papa - ever go to The Marcy ?
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So far I've never mixed on the pc - a lot of my friends use either serato or (the better djs I know who use pc) use traktor(sp?). Personally I'd suggest getting an old beat up set of decks and 30odd records and doing it the old fashioned way! It's a lot more fun and then everything else is a doddle! ;)

markysimmo said:
What was your DJ name Rob ???
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Rob Wilde

milo said:
I'd feel like I was cheating people if I DJd off an iPad (or anything other than vinyl for that matter).
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The only reason I've gone for this set up is that it's very much hands on. I used to say exactly the same about moving on to CDs until they brought out the denon with the belt drive platter so I could still scratch like on vinyl. Then I found my collection expanded immensely plus I was able to play my own tunes and bootlegs out. Then after a while I got fed up with the sound quality difference when laying a set off of cd and vinyl as I was wasting time that I could have been spending doing other stuff with the time I was using up altering the gain, bass, treble every time I put a new vinyl on! Plus sometimes I'll get through 20 odd tracks in half an hour which was leaving my record box in a right old state lol!

paxtonwolf said:
Bit different from the decks I used to use in the good old days of the 80s....ah the memories!
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I've still got my old vestax after I got them back recently from a mate I loaned them to about four or five years ago lol

papaspur said:
I first started with Virtual DJ. Since then, the starter version has been made free to download from their site. Mostly functional, missing a few little things which I forget but won't really be necessary for someone starting off.
The only hardware at my disposal were my mouse and keyboard. I didn't even have a dedicated soundcard. Basically, I just experimented with playing two songs together and trying to mess with some of the EQ settings. I read a few web sites about what beatmatching and all the standard controls you'd find on a turntable+mixer (pitchbend, faders, how to mix using EQ). Also understanding some basic music theory will give you a good idea of where ideal mixing points is. Personally, I don't think it's necessary to learn beatmatching on vinyl, but I do think it will help you appreciate how records used to be mixed and give you a better understanding of mixing.

Many people will look down on you if you use sync, but honestly, this is the direction that DJing has been heading for a while now. Plus, if you're just beginning, sync will free you up to learn other mixing fundamentals while allowing you to create seamless mixes. On top of that, it's hard enough using just a keyboard and mouse. I'm sure there's a keybind guide out there, and if you enjoy DJing enough, I would advise getting a controller eventually.
I got a cheap-ish one with a built-in soundcard (hercules rmx) that got me started, but I eventually upgraded to the Traktor S4. Once you use one piece of software, all the others are similar enough for you to intuitively pick up on the fly, just taking time to note the nuances (like any other piece of software).

I haven't been to the marcy but I'll have to figure out how to get on the list since I heard they announce their parties 24 hours in advance.
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I agree that for some djs sync is cheating whereas with others it is merely cutting corners. I don't like that djs who can't beat match can pretend they can. And djs who can beat match don't get the recognition coz people assume they're syncing!

southstand1882 said:
I once warmed up for Norman Jay (who is a yid)
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Kudos mate!!
 
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