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So you think it is an equal gamble to sign a player that has never played PL football or to sign a player who has played PL football and shown they can cope with the pace and physicality?

Well I have already explained that, I think it absolutely is because I don't think any two set of circumstances are the same here or abroad once you leave a set up you thrived in

We are signing two players from City whose best performances have taken place abroad, in Savinho case his only good sustained form came abroad (I take Marmoush has been very good here but I don't think its a greater body of work than abroad), so I think my general point stands and people are celebrating (rightly) players who's proven form looks better abroad than being PL proven and we are paying 150m for them

Do you think De Zerbi shares your view?

I dont care in terms of the context of this forum, we are having a conversation between us, not RDZ, so can we refrain from these attempts to shutdown conversations with nonsensical points???
 
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Top scorer for the season, his goal won us the Europa league and we sold him for only a small loss.
Our top scorer last season
A player that looked pretty good in his first season under Ange and has been difficult to judge since due to his injuries last season

To continue your silly game…. Ndombele, Lo Celso, Soldado.
Let's be clear this is your silly game:)

ie there are always good/bad examples on both sides of the argument...so nullifies the point of the argument in the first place
 
Well I have already explained that, I think it absolutely is because I don't think any two set of circumstances are the same here or abroad once you leave a set up you thrived in

We are signing two players from City whose best performances have taken place abroad, in Savinho case his only good sustained form came abroad (I take Marmoush has been very good here but I don't think its a greater body of work than abroad), so I think my general point stands and people are celebrating (rightly) players who's proven form looks better abroad than being PL proven and we are paying 150m for them



I dont care in terms of the context of this forum, we are having a conversation between us, not RDZ, so can we refrain from these attempts to shutdown conversations with nonsensical points???
OK so you answered one question, you don’t feel the gamble is any different. I disagree with you but you’re entitled to your view.

I’m not trying to shut down a conversation, just asking a question (that you have avoided).

Let me ask ithe question a different way. Why do you think De Zerbi has exclusively signed players from the PL this season?
 
Yeh, We could go through the entire history of the "serious clubs" and suspect the success v failure marks on transfers are fairly balanced.
Let's end by saying our best ever foreign signing in recent times looked like he was struggling with the demands of the PL for the whole of his first season, and asked Poch that following summer to leave. The rest is history.
 
I’m not trying to shut down a conversation, just asking a question (that you have avoided).

Avoiding a question about if RDZ shares my view? Seriously? We aint 12 and Im not debating him, I am debating with you

But for the record and to quench your thirst for a reply, he likely doesnt share my view based on this window, but i suspect not every signing that improves us will come from the PL like I dont suspect every signing this summer will be a success, so we would likely both be wrong....and right
 
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Joe Lewis could have pulled the plug at any time like the kids did. But Levy ran it the way Joe wanted and they align because Levy was Joe's protege and they largely think the same way about business. As I understand Levy did at times express the need to invest more on the pitch and Joe did not support that.
doesn't make sense to sack levy then...even if levy didn't have the cash he could have accepted a dilution of his shares
 
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