Cristian Romero

[parklane1]

Fair enough. But if the cb is less exposed there would be fewer mistakes.

Spot on.

 

[parklane1]

The system we played had something to do with it.

Also all the mid need to do their part. Not sure i want 1 pure defensive mid. Would like a roy keane/viera who can do that but can also attack. Along with a carrick who could intercept then ping.

As long as he can read a game a good DM would be the same as a Keane/ Viera.

 

[parklane1]

Fair enough. But if the cb is less exposed there would be fewer mistakes.

Is the ri ght answer.

 

[Lilbaz]

As long as he can read a game a good DM would be the same as a Keane/ Viera.

Unless their role is to get the ball and short pass. To a more creative player.

Although saying that, it could be good.

 

[thfcsteff]

From what I can gather our fans along with his Argentinian team mate rate him higher than everyone else
Neutrals still think he is a red card every game

Which, in fairness, is just ignorance based on a cliche snapshot.
He didn't have one red card last season, indeed, since his wreckless stage which seemed to peak in early 2024, he has largerly avoided any stupid cards (5 yellows in all comps last season albeit his appearance record was less).

I have to say, the more I think about his unforced errors early last season, the more I find myself buying into the whole 'we fudged our pre-season treatment of players like him who had played a lot of football' scenario. I think he was overplayed for a year prior. He simply wasn't fit/focussed enough. I also do think the lack of protection in front of him/cover if he was too far upfield absolutely exposed him. AND yes, some of those errors were just silliness!

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Which, in fairness, is just ignorance based on a cliche snapshot.
He didn't have one red card last season, indeed, since his wreckless stage which seemed to peak in early 2024, he has largerly avoided any stupid cards (5 yellows in all comps last season albeit his appearance record was less).

I have to say, the more I think about his unforced errors early last season, the more I find myself buying into the whole 'we fudged our pre-season treatment of players like him who had played a lot of football' scenario. I think he was overplayed for a year prior. He simply wasn't fit/focussed enough. I also do think the lack of protection in front of him/cover if he was too far upfield absolutely exposed him. AND yes, some of those errors were just silliness!

We will see I guess
I do agree the red card thing is the kind of diatribe sky push
The were in talking about were nor when we pushed upfield by the way
He certainly wasn’t focussed enough
Do you remember Leicester away?
Brighton away?
Wolves away ?
When we conceded in those games we were not the attacking force

 

[thfcsteff]

We will see I guess
I do agree the red card thing is the kind of diatribe sky push
The were in talking about were nor when we pushed upfield by the way
He certainly wasn’t focussed enough
Do you remember Leicester away?
Brighton away?
Wolves away ?
When we conceded in those games we were not the attacking force

I remember them all. I am not disagreeing per se. What I am saying is that there appear to be some legit reasons, albeit I found myself exasperated at all of those.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I remember them all. I am not disagreeing per se. What I am saying is that there appear to be some legit reasons, albeit I found myself exasperated at all of those.

The reason of us being exposed imo can’t be attributed to the errors where he is culpable
Doesn’t mean there aren’t many others that came from over exposure though
Seeing the athletico result tonight may make the desire him more.. game they wont pay up but good for us

 

[BrainOfLevy]

Which, in fairness, is just ignorance based on a cliche snapshot.
He didn't have one red card last season, indeed, since his wreckless stage which seemed to peak in early 2024, he has largerly avoided any stupid cards (5 yellows in all comps last season albeit his appearance record was less).

I have to say, the more I think about his unforced errors early last season, the more I find myself buying into the whole 'we fudged our pre-season treatment of players like him who had played a lot of football' scenario. I think he was overplayed for a year prior. He simply wasn't fit/focussed enough. I also do think the lack of protection in front of him/cover if he was too far upfield absolutely exposed him. AND yes, some of those errors were just silliness!

Genuine question - has there been anything written deeply on how we messed up our pre season last year? I know Ange touched on it in an Aussie interview too.

I would be fascinated to read about it. The disagreements. Clearly there was something going on with the medical staff too.

 

[thfcsteff]

Genuine question - has there been anything written deeply on how we messed up our pre season last year? I know Ange touched on it in an Aussie interview too.

I would be fascinated to read about it. The disagreements. Clearly there was something going on with the medical staff too.

Me as well mate. I suspect we will never know, however changing the strength and conditioning team last summer cannot have helped!

 

[Muttley]

I still genuinely believe people need to start looking at the defensive errors, not just Romero's, but in the context of how Ange was asking these guys to play the offside. Naturally, Romero would want to sweep and he want to go with his man and back himself to win a one-on-one battle. It's exactly what he does for Argentina. Now consider that at Spurs he has to spend all his cognition calculating where his team mates are, which line they need to be holding and just trusting that the forward will venture offside. Ange was even using the 18 yard line as a guide based on what I could see. That is a distraction to Romero that in the split second makes him a weaker defender. It goes against his instincts.

I'm perfectly OK with high defensive lines and catching players offside. What I'm not OK with is the entire offside system that we used in the league in very deep areas. You could just see the discomfort and mass confusion in the players. You could see one player playing the opposition onside all the time as they just couldn't handle the system, especially with the constant change of players.

I actually want to see how Frank build out the defensive system throughout the team. It needs to be a lot smarter than we've had for 2 seasons where we've conceded over 60 league goals.

 

[BrainOfLevy]

I still genuinely believe people need to start looking at the defensive errors, not just Romero's, but in the context of how Ange was asking these guys to play the offside. Naturally, Romero would want to sweep and he want to go with his man and back himself to win a one-on-one battle. It's exactly what he does for Argentina. Now consider that at Spurs he has to spend all his cognition calculating where his team mates are, which line they need to be holding and just trusting that the forward will venture offside. Ange was even using the 18 yard line as a guide based on what I could see. That is a distraction to Romero that in the split second makes him a weaker defender. It goes against his instincts.

I'm perfectly OK with high defensive lines and catching players offside. What I'm not OK with is the entire offside system that we used in the league in very deep areas. You could just see the discomfort and mass confusion in the players. You could see one player playing the opposition onside all the time as they just couldn't handle the system, especially with the constant change of players.

I actually want to see how Frank build out the defensive system throughout the team. It needs to be a lot smarter than we've had for 2 seasons where we've conceded over 60 league goals.

I’m not sure I agree, I would argue that Romero was perfectly allowed to play to his instincts in Ange’s system. Indeed I think the idea that he would advance up to win the duel knowing that VDV was covering in behind was a key part of the system.

I really think the confusion in the players was down to barely having a settled defensive line or settled 11 from one game to the next. We seemed to do absolutely fine when playing a more defensive game (either overall or in phases) when we actually had our first choice players on the pitch.