MartyFunkhouser
Steve Sedgley
They are certainly in hard jobs, but ICE are also certainly under trained, poorly profiled as staff and given a poor directive in their approach.
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They are certainly in hard jobs, but ICE are also certainly under trained, poorly profiled as staff and given a poor directive in their approach.
This is true. But had the borders been properly secured, which its been proven the past year was absolutely possible, and if those here illegally would self deport when ordered to do so, you wouldn't need to go on a mass hiring spree of agents which results in a poorer quality across any field.
Specific to ICE, its only getting out of hand in certain cities. Minnesota and Portland to be specific and you have to look at what makes these 2 cities unique in comparison to other major US cities where there are are higher numbers of deportations and active ICE agents but you don't have the violent clashes. In both cases, the political leadership in Minnesota and Portland have actively undermined ICE and forced local law enforcement to stand down. In CA & NY and other blue states/cities you get the preaching from their leaders but they don't actually intervene with local law enforcement assisting.
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
I don't know. Now shall we address all the nonsense you posted?
No. There is absolutely no reason for us to interact in this thread until you can answer my simply question.
MartyFunkhouser
Steve Sedgley
Have you been on this site before with a different handle perchance? Not a dig BTW but the tone and structure of this all seems fairly similar but I can't put my finger on it
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
Feels like it's someone who is habitual at creating stories that aren't true.
No. I was on spurs community for a short period a few years back of time but got a permanent ban when I questioned an ITK that was clearly making stuff up
I live in the US so this is an interesting topic to me and I think it gives me what appears so far to be a unique perspective in the thread. But as I said last week I am interested in good faith discussions. If i am going to have my morality questioned by someone that wants to appear intellectual on an internet forum and doesn't have the ability to see any nuance beyond his own political views, I just won't engage with them.
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
No. I was on spurs community for a short period a few years back of time but got a permanent ban when I questioned an ITK that was clearly making stuff up
I live in the US so this is an interesting topic to me and I think it gives me what appears so far to be a unique perspective in the thread. But as I said last week I am interested in good faith discussions. If i am going to have my morality questioned by someone that wants to appear intellectual on an internet forum and doesn't have the ability to see any nuance beyond his own political views, I just won't engage with them.
This is what someone who has lost a debate writes like. Run off pal. Or let's deal with this academically. I doubt you will.
Genuinely though. Anyone who defends ICE can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. And when they try to deport you I'd still want justice for you. Trump won't.
I’ve asked you a really straight forward question and you just flat out refuse to answer for some reason.
I’m a legal permanent resident eligible to become a citizen at any time. Lived in the US since 2006.
Baleforce
Terry Naylor
maths is your friend
look at what percentage of the US population live in California, look at how affluent it is compared to other states, look at how health insurance works in the US
I would have guessed higher
Los Angeles County, not all of CA, would account for less than 2% of the US population. Based on the Health Care system, if an area is more affluent they would require less Medicare expenditure as wealthy people will typically still have a private plan in retirement and not rely on Medicare.
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
You asked if I have any right wing views. I asked you to give examples. Those examples proved you have no idea what left and right wing are. So it has become impossible to answer your simple question because the premise of the question is based on your inability to understand basic basic political theory.
Do you hold any opinions that would be considered to the right by a simpleton like me?
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
The things you listed as right wing
Pro Israel/genocide - No
Guns without full checks - No
Private Healthcare only - No
Not regulating banks - No and la la land. There's no such thing.
Brexit - No. It was economic self harm
Your issue is you made yourself look a tit when you talk about things you don't understand and act like you do. And ignoramus is fine if they know they are one.
For the sake of it I will say I am an ignoramus.
Nothing you have said here would be considered to the right. You are still not answering the bloody question.
Those areas have a higher illegal population except for Texas which is just more spread out/less densly populated.
Rorschach
Mel Hopkins
If you want to post your source for this assertion, I might read it.
Mikey10
Rafael Van Der Vaart
I think he may be living in a post-facts world, so don’t hold your breath.