What are you on about? What has he changed that you agree with?
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What are you on about? What has he changed that you agree with?
Main ones would be changes to the foot pyramid and removing the universal recommendation that newborn babies receive the hepB vaccine within minutes of birth, to no earlier than 2 months.
MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
Isn't his anti Vaccine rhetoric causing issues with measles outbreaks etc?
There are countless examples of countries where RFK is not responsible for health protocals with 95%+ vaccination rates that have had measles outbreaks.
Israel had 4000 cases in 2019 with a 97% vaccination rate. That would equate to 160,000 cases in the US.
MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
Because despite those numbers there is a global decline in uptake, numbers that seem high on paper are reducing and outbreaks are increasing.
In part because of b0ll0x spouted online and by divs like RFK....in the US case of decline uptake
On Israel, seems the kids dying were all unvaxed for Measles. Shame that people are being scared by faux twitter scientists
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The global uptake didn’t reduce until Covid changed the perception of vaccines changed. The example I gave you was from 2019. Can find many examples before then and since in developed counties. The US still has a higher uptake than the UK.
My wife was a Pediatric nurse for 10 years. She already held the view that vaccines should be delayed which was very common among her colleagues. When returning to work in 2020 she was told she was required to get the Covid vaccine even though she was breast feeding and she said no. She’s been a stay at home mother since. Granted if we were not financially able to make that work there would have been more of a dilemma.
Given her education and career I follow her lead on anything health related. She follows my on finances
. Both our kids (5 years and 5 months) have had some vaccines but not all on the schedule, the youngest will be getting less.
MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
The global uptake didn’t reduce until Covid changed the perception of vaccines changed. The example I gave you was from 2019. Can find many examples before then and since in developed counties. The US still has a higher uptake than the UK.
My wife was a Pediatric nurse for 10 years. She already held the view that vaccines should be delayed which was very common among her colleagues. When returning to work in 2020 she was told she was required to get the Covid vaccine even though she was breast feeding and she said no. She’s been a stay at home mother since. Granted if we were not financially able to make that work there would have been more of a dilemma.
Given her education and career I follow her lead on anything health related. She follows my on finances
The UK is fcuked for the same reasons Ive said. My mum has just retired from running 3 practices and the uptakes been on the decline because people taking their health views from online no marks and RFK types. Given how safe and its importance here, the short fall in MMR uptake is massively dangerous, as seen in regional outbreaks here.
Don't be fooled that this is a UK v American thing, its not, its just our lack of uptake isn't being lead by the chief of health here, its other d1ckheads online
RFK is a dangerous oddball
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The outbreaks were happening before Covid which is when the decline in vaccine uptake happened. It still happens in countries with the high vaccine uptake.
Before we go further. Do you view the Covid vaccine differently to the other vaccines that have been in place for many years. Or equally safe and effective?
MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
I think you have to, to an extent, MMR has been here since 1988 and has been hugely successful and safe.
Thats not to say Covid isnt safe and wasn't successful, but there are clearly different things for different situations which have unfortunately been conflated and had rhetorics around them created by people who want to scare people for engagement and online monetary gain.
Do you accept that the rollout of the Covid vaccine played its part in the rise of vaccine skepticism? Or is it entirely down to online discourse.
My wife was making $140k a year before she walked away. With benefits that would be worth another £40k on top. Shes not exactly done it for the money.
MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
I think it was badly explained away because there were too many voices involved in the roll out, but I equally think it was pounced on by people who wanted to weaponise it for their own gain.
My issue comes that people are not seemingly intelligent enough to look beyond it and are taking their ques on MMR from macarons when its been an important and safe tool in society for decades.
I dont wanna go down a long winded covid debate TBH, it was done to death on here for years.
Its shameful how people are being scared off MMR by online macarons and yes I think is come from opportunism which spawned in Covid period.
I suspect your wife isnt telling people not to have MMR because she didnt want Covid Jab.....which is the point
Fukin cranks everywhere. Stop discussing what you don't understand. There's a thread on Covd here where all this brick was thoroughly debunked.