Suarez - Serial Biter

[johnola]

he has let the fans down, in the sense that he won't be able to play for them for a few months. but i don't think he owes them anything (and i think he knows this too)

Not sure. The fans certainly do not owe him anything, but have wrapped their arms around him anyway.

 

[Jurgen the German]

i think i'm in the minority in thinking that this ban is way too harsh. i don't think these three bites are too different to headbutts, other than that you see headbutts more frequently in football matches. had this had been luis suarez's third headbutt of his career, i don't think the ban would have been as harsh.

personally, i think there are far more worse actions in football. such as two footed tackles, where the offender can only be aiming to genuinely hurt the opposition. and these don't get punished anywhere nearly as severely as suarez has been. i would have banned him for 4-6 matches maximum, on the basis that i do not see a difference between this offense, and other offenses that deserve 3-6 game bans.

i think suarez is a "victim" of a bite being such as unique thing to do on a football pitch. as well as fifa being under a lot of pressure (for other reasons)

Hang on, so it's his third offence but you would give him a lesser ban than the previous two occasions? I'm just trying to understand how you came to that conclusion.

The World Cup is the most watched sporting event in the world. You know as well as I do that kids copy their idols, my Dad used to referee games and he saw a spike in kids applauding him if they disagreed with a decision after Rooney did it. He's a serial offender, biting is a disgusting thing to and whilst he may not ever learn, the chances of him learning are increased surely by increasing the ban every time he does something like this.

I fully expect a stupid response from Suarez and the Uruguayan FA.

 

[Neymar]

Not sure. The fans certainly do not owe him anything, but have wrapped their arms around him anyway.

the fans have wrapped their arms around him anyway because they are desperate for success. it has nothing to do with suarez on a human level. thats why their loyalty/love towards suarez is superifical. liverpool fans are no different to fans of any other club. but because suarez is someone who they believe can finally bring back the glory days, the are willing to throw morals out of the window.

isnt it weird how everyone else can see that there is something wrong with suarez, but liverpool fan's can't? thats football. makes us all mad

 

[Neymar]

Hang on, so it's his third offence but you would give him a lesser ban than the previous two occasions? I'm just trying to understand how you came to that conclusion.

The World Cup is the most watched sporting event in the world. You know as well as I do that kids copy their idols, my Dad used to referee games and he saw a spike in kids applauding him if they disagreed with a decision after Rooney did it. He's a serial offender, biting is a disgusting thing to and whilst he may not ever learn, the chances of him learning are increased surely by increasing the ban every time he does something like this.

I fully expect a stupid response from Suarez and the Uruguayan FA.

i accept that they may want to increase the ban because of the fact that it is his third offense. but, for the bite alone, i don't feel that the offense is any different to a headbutt. therefore, the ban should be the same as if he had headbutted someone.

 

[Robspur12]

i accept that they may want to increase the ban because of the fact that it is his third offense. but, for the bite alone, i don't feel that the offense is any different to a headbutt. therefore, the ban should be the same as if he had headbutted someone.

On the basis that biting presents an infection risk that head butting doesn't, it is worse. On the basis that the last incident drew such negative publicity that no one except a macaron would have been in any doubt about how seriously it was viewed by the authorities FIFA had to take serious action.

 

[johnola]

the fans have wrapped their arms around him anyway because they are desperate for success. it has nothing to do with suarez on a human level. thats why their loyalty/love towards suarez is superifical. liverpool fans are no different to fans of any other club. but because suarez is someone who they believe can finally bring back the glory days, the are willing to throw morals out of the window.

isnt it weird how everyone else can see that there is something wrong with suarez, but liverpool fan's can't? thats football. makes us all mad

What do you think is the correct moral and human approach for LFC and supporters to take with Suarez right now?

 

[Neymar]

What do you think is the correct moral and human approach for LFC and supporters to take with Suarez right now?

they should have condemned his behaviour fully like everyone else. instead they are trying to justify his behaviour, like they have done every other time. i accept every other club would've done the same however

 

[Superhudd]

If a player can get banned worldwide for taking cocaine he hell as can be banned worldwide for biting or violent conduct on his third occasion.

Ludicrous to say otherwise.

 

[Superted]

On the basis that biting presents an infection risk that head butting doesn't, it is worse. On the basis that the last incident drew such negative publicity that no one except a macaron would have been in any doubt about how seriously it was viewed by the authorities FIFA had to take serious action.

This. Who knows what sort of diseases that little cretin is carrying.

 

[chicken_badge]

Most other instances of violent can be traced back to innocuous challenges. Eg headbut>pushing of heads>squaring up>verbal confrontation.

Biting and spitting are the only likely ones I can think of where there is no middle ground. Suarez could only try and get out of this one by basically claiming the Italian placed his elbow on his mouth.

 

[chicken_badge]

And for all society it is deemed as completely insulting and simply not human behaviour

 

[shaney]

i think i'm in the minority in thinking that this ban is way too harsh. i don't think these three bites are too different to headbutts, other than that you see headbutts more frequently in football matches. had this had been luis suarez's third headbutt of his career, i don't think the ban would have been as harsh.

personally, i think there are far more worse actions in football. such as two footed tackles, where the offender can only be aiming to genuinely hurt the opposition. and these don't get punished anywhere nearly as severely as suarez has been. i would have banned him for 4-6 matches maximum, on the basis that i do not see a difference between this offense, and other offenses that deserve 3-6 game bans.

i think suarez is a "victim" of a bite being such as unique thing to do on a football pitch. as well as fifa being under a lot of pressure (for other reasons)

Wow. Im stunned you think he should have got a lesser ban and that sinking your teeth into the flesh of another human being is no different to a head butt.

I think your in the huge minority in thinking that offences like head butts and two footed tackles, are just ghe same as vile acts of biting or spitting in someones face for example. Even though biting and head butts would physically hurt a player more, I myself would be much more distraught and violated if someone bit me or spat in my face. This would be much worse than pain or injury, and im sure almost every player would agree.

As human beings there is a line you dont cross.

 

[milo]

i think i'm in the minority in thinking that this ban is way too harsh. i don't think these three bites are too different to headbutts, other than that you see headbutts more frequently in football matches. had this had been luis suarez's third headbutt of his career, i don't think the ban would have been as harsh.

personally, i think there are far more worse actions in football. such as two footed tackles, where the offender can only be aiming to genuinely hurt the opposition. and these don't get punished anywhere nearly as severely as suarez has been. i would have banned him for 4-6 matches maximum, on the basis that i do not see a difference between this offense, and other offenses that deserve 3-6 game bans.

i think suarez is a "victim" of a bite being such as unique thing to do on a football pitch. as well as fifa being under a lot of pressure (for other reasons)

Biting is pretty rare in football so it is difficult to draw comparisons and asses how severe the punishment is. In rugby, where biting is more common, a player receives an automatic one year ban.

 

[DHSF]

Hang on, so it's his third offence but you would give him a lesser ban than the previous two occasions? I'm just trying to understand how you came to that conclusion.

The World Cup is the most watched sporting event in the world. You know as well as I do that kids copy their idols, my Dad used to referee games and he saw a spike in kids applauding him if they disagreed with a decision after Rooney did it. He's a serial offender, biting is a disgusting thing to and whilst he may not ever learn, the chances of him learning are increased surely by increasing the ban every time he does something like this.

I fully expect a stupid response from Suarez and the Uruguayan FA.

Its about getting to the root cause of the problem not necessarily just throwing bans at him. Thats not necessarily the way to go about it, it doesnt act as a detterent when the person in question has mental issues. The ban is fair but needs to be coupled with some kind of psychiatric evaluation and ****.

He seems like a normal guy off the pitch a family, wife kids etc but on it he is a different animal.

 

[milo]

Its about getting to the root cause of the problem not necessarily just throwing bans at him. Thats not necessarily the way to go about it, it doesnt act as a detterent when the person in question has mental issues. The ban is fair but needs to be coupled with some kind of psychiatric evaluation and ****.

He seems like a normal guy off the pitch a family, wife kids etc but on it he is a different animal.

How do you know that he has mental issues as opposed to just being a violent cheat?

 

[Whiffler]

A lot of people out there trying to say this is out of order when compared to other things we don't like - stamp/elbow/head/spitting. It's interesting that 'we' have taken it for granted that these are only on the fringe of normal football behaviour.

I would like to think that FIFA and others will realise that people would like to see better behaviour on the pitch, and the more talented players able to strut their stuff. Let's see FIFA/UEFA/FA put players on notice that some 5 and 10 match bans are coming their way - whether the ref has taken action or not.

And for repeat offenders, some AFA (all footballing activities) bans. These will threaten their career and sponsorship deals.


While I'm spouting off, and just for their own education, I would like Sky or someone with a dozen or more cameras to turn all footage over to someone (referee's association?)who will go through every frame/angle and see how many offences are committed during 'a' match - I care not which.

The aim would be to show how much referees have lost control because they cannot look in all directions, and the non-compliance with laws encouraged by managers.

Personally, I wouldn't allow any commentator who speaks of a professional foul. I've heard more encouragement that players should 'take one for the team' - yet the same people are disgusted by Suarez and the fact that his behaviour is damaging the world cup because of the bad publicity, yet see a flying winger being hacked as 'a good thing'.

In the end Suarez didn't affect the game beyond breaking the play up, whereas the other scenario could have led to a goal.

"If he's not interfering with play, what's he doing on the pitch?" - good one Bill

"If it wasn't a clear goals-coring opportunity, why did the defender bring him down 'professionally'?" - Whiffler


Off now for first dump of the day - I think I'll call it Luis

 

[SoundAndVision]

i think i'm in the minority in thinking that this ban is way too harsh. i don't think these three bites are too different to headbutts, other than that you see headbutts more frequently in football matches. had this had been luis suarez's third headbutt of his career, i don't think the ban would have been as harsh.

personally, i think there are far more worse actions in football. such as two footed tackles, where the offender can only be aiming to genuinely hurt the opposition. and these don't get punished anywhere nearly as severely as suarez has been. i would have banned him for 4-6 matches maximum, on the basis that i do not see a difference between this offense, and other offenses that deserve 3-6 game bans.

i think suarez is a "victim" of a bite being such as unique thing to do on a football pitch. as well as fifa being under a lot of pressure (for other reasons)

I agree, leg breaking challenges and headbutts are much worse, give me a choice between recieving a headbutt and recieving a bite and i know which id choose.I dont really understand why its such a large ban.I guess as you say because its the "unique" ness of it and the 3rd time he's done it and they are under pressure to make it a lengthy ban this time.

 

[DHSF]

How do you know that he has mental issues as opposed to just being a violent cheat?

Ok simply because there seems to be two types of person here. One who is a violent cheat on the pitch and another who seems to be a normal family man off it. Its not like he is a Terry who causes trouble on and off the pitch. Of course im going on the basis that there have not been any off the pitch antics reported or that im aware of.

Its bi polar if you will.

 

[SoundAndVision]

How do you know that he has mental issues as opposed to just being a violent cheat?

You can tell its instinctive, he see's red for a split second and just does it without thinking, and regrets it the second its happened.Its not right but it dosn't make him a bad person.

 

[Jordinho]

You can tell its instinctive, he see's red for a split second and just does it without thinking, and regrets it the second its happened.Its not right but it dosn't make him a bad person.

He's a bad person for using any means necessary to cheat. Why not simply admit to having done something wrong?