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Next Spurs Manager v.2

Who do you want?

  • Louis Van Gaal

    Votes: 8 6.6%
  • Mauro Pochettino

    Votes: 9 7.4%
  • Frank de Boer

    Votes: 43 35.5%
  • Roberto Martinez

    Votes: 16 13.2%
  • Carlo Ancelotti

    Votes: 10 8.3%
  • Murat Yakin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Thomas Tuchel

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Rafa Benitez

    Votes: 29 24.0%
  • Someone Else

    Votes: 4 3.3%

  • Total voters
    121
  • Poll closed .
If all the poch talk coming out today is true I have to say I will be disapointed

A distinctly run of the mill average not done anything of note typical levy appointment maybe poch will bring a tube ticket to he's first press conference :-#

Stil I suppose if I could get behind avb who at the time I would have rather have had my nuts plucked with rusty plyers than levy appoint him then this one should be easier 8-[
 
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Run of the mill typical levy wrong apointment nothing special and distinctly average :-k

A shoe in then :(


Odd, poch has done well at Southampton, wouldn't say he's distinctly average, I've been impressed by his ability to make them play.

The only concern I have is that I have no idea how he handles the signing players side of things, however should he have to if we have baldini anyway?
 
If all the poch talk coming out today is true I have to say I will be disapointed

A distinctly run of the mill average not done anything of note typical levy appointment maybe poch will bring a tube ticket to he's first press conference :-#

Stil I suppose if I could get behind avb who at the time I would have rather have had my nuts plucked with rusty plyers than levy appoint him then this one should be easier 8-[

OK I'll bite.

What do you think is distinctly average about him?
 
I still don't understand why David Moyes is in the betting running for next Spurs manager. There's no way that Levy would make an appointment which would be that unpopular.

If he wants an unpopular manager with the potential to deliver results, he may as well have kept Sherwood.
 
I want Poch. Similar to AVB in many ways but for me with less hype and pressure. Set ideas and he can obviously work with a young squad like ours. He has worked with smaller clubs in the past and done well. Young. Everything to prove and clearly has a desire to succeed. He wants more wages and he wants to build something. We should just do what we can to get him.

Poch has been the most overhyped manager this season, taking an average team to an average position in the league, he wasn't expected to finish top 6 and didn't. All he succeded in doing was finishing above teams like Sunderland, Aston Villa and WBA BIG F**KING DEAL.
 
Would much rather we go for someone proven (Benitez, Allegri etc) rather than relatively unproven like Poch. He could turn out to be another Rodgers or Martinez but equally could turn out to be a Laudrup or AVB
 
OK I'll bite.

What do you think is distinctly average about him?

TS did the double over him. Thats not a good sign :) ................tbh, Poch will be cheap in terms of compo and salary. He doesnt seem the type to cause a fuss, to make outrageous transfer demands. He will come in and make do with what he has whilst Levy and Baldini continue to bring in players they want rather than what any manager would necessarily want. The problem at Spurs is that Levy and Lewis, the fans also, believe that we are a great great club that deserves to be at the top, in the CL, winning cups and all that, but when it comes to appointing a manager to achieve all this we are seriously considering a guy who has only managed Espanyol and Southampton and has no record of success at all 8-[
 
I want someone whose been round the block a few times. A manager with a proven CV. What I don't want is another gamble on a young unproven manager. We've been down that road too many times. I know there are no guarantees on any appointment and it's always a gamble to some extent but let's at least try and shorten the odds.

I think Levy should wait until the seasons are all over in Europe as well and then see who is available. The situations with LVG, Benitez, and Ancelotti will be clearer then. It may be that we won't have a chance of getting any of those anyway buts let aim high before we take a punt on one of those younger fellas.
 
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all the options available, i'll be disappointed if we blow our load on Poch straight away

It seems to be the best fit for the club, though. I'm sure F De Boer looks a sexier appointment, I'm sure Rafa has won more, I'm sure you could make a case for anyone.

Pochettino ticks most of the boxes for Levy, the club, how we operate and our ideology:

*Experienced international defender with a tonne of caps for one of the world's biggest international teams
*Reputational wise, known as someone with presence in the dressing room, that commands respect of players
*Track record of being able to get his ideas across to a variety of different of different players and in two of Europe's biggest leagues.
*Experience playing in a variety of different clubs and leagues
*Management wise, has worked under a director of football and prefers coaching to signing
*Likes to integrate young, local talent into the squad
*Proven record of developing and improving younger players at both Espanyol and Spurs
*Protege of Bielsa with a growing continental reputiation for management
*Plays fast, attacking football and his preferred 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation perfect for the squad we have built at Spurs
*Combines this with a solid defensive unit, befitting someone who was a tough tackling defender in his playing days
*Organised and dedicated coach and trainer
*Restrained and professional off the pitch, in media interviews and in dealing with the board and others at the clubs he works for.

I'd say Levy has looked at it and read up on him, as I have and...

*He's the candidate for coach least likely to rip up the squad we have and ask for a load of new signings
*He's the candidate for coach along with De Boer, most likely to make use of the academy and young talents coming through
*He's the candidate for coach most likely to keep his counsel and act professionally and least likely to spout off a load of nonsense in the media at every opportunity
*He's the candidate most likely to unite the dressing room and command respect with all of the players at all levels within the club
*He's the candidate most likely to accept the transfer committee's plans for squad strengthening without throwing a hissy fit
*He's the candidate most lielly to play the style of football that Spurs fans and Premiership fans love to see

I think it was neck and neck between him and De Boer until De Boer started whoring in the media at every opportunity and getting his brother and mates in the game and media to join in, clearly in an attempt to put pressure on Levy to do the deal. I think Levy looked at that and thought, right, if there's a disagreement in say, a signing in the transfer committee, I could wake up one morning to a load of headlines in the press because Ronald De Boer has given an interview saying how his bro has been given the players he doesn't want and this that and the other, all designed to put pressure on the club to get his own way.

It will be a worry for Levy that De Boer acted the way he did during this process and it clearly caused a massive and embarrassing episode with Sherwood, who then used the media to make Levy and teh club look like a bunch of mugs.

It seems harsh on De Boer, but if you have to choose between 2 people and they are pretty much neck and neck, Pochettino's complete and total professionalism during this whole episode must have swung things MASSIVELY in his favour and that's how it is now looking.
 
I just want a manager who fits our club. Someone who likes high tempo exciting football, good man manager and media savvy. Don't know who fits that profile best.
 
Re: ITK Thread

It seems to be the best fit for the club, though. I'm sure F De Boer looks a sexier appointment, I'm sure Rafa has won more, I'm sure you could make a case for anyone.

Pochettino ticks most of the boxes for Levy, the club, how we operate and our ideology:

*Experienced international defender with a tonne of caps for one of the world's biggest international teams
*Reputational wise, known as someone with presence in the dressing room, that commands respect of players
*Track record of being able to get his ideas across to a variety of different of different players and in two of Europe's biggest leagues.
*Experience playing in a variety of different clubs and leagues
*Management wise, has worked under a director of football and prefers coaching to signing
*Likes to integrate young, local talent into the squad
*Proven record of developing and improving younger players at both Espanyol and Spurs
*Protege of Bielsa with a growing continental reputiation for management
*Plays fast, attacking football and his preferred 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation perfect for the squad we have built at Spurs
*Combines this with a solid defensive unit, befitting someone who was a tough tackling defender in his playing days
*Organised and dedicated coach and trainer
*Restrained and professional off the pitch, in media interviews and in dealing with the board and others at the clubs he works for.

I'd say Levy has looked at it and read up on him, as I have and...

*He's the candidate for coach least likely to rip up the squad we have and ask for a load of new signings
*He's the candidate for coach along with De Boer, most likely to make use of the academy and young talents coming through
*He's the candidate for coach most likely to keep his counsel and act professionally and least likely to spout off a load of nonsense in the media at every opportunity
*He's the candidate most likely to unite the dressing room and command respect with all of the players at all levels within the club
*He's the candidate most likely to accept the transfer committee's plans for squad strengthening without throwing a hissy fit
*He's the candidate most lielly to play the style of football that Spurs fans and Premiership fans love to see

I think it was neck and neck between him and De Boer until De Boer started whoring in the media at every opportunity and getting his brother and mates in the game and media to join in, clearly in an attempt to put pressure on Levy to do the deal. I think Levy looked at that and thought, right, if there's a disagreement in say, a signing in the transfer committee, I could wake up one morning to a load of headlines in the press because Ronald De Boer has given an interview saying how his bro has been given the players he doesn't want and this that and the other, all designed to put pressure on the club to get his own way.

It will be a worry for Levy that De Boer acted the way he did during this process and it clearly caused a massive and embarrassing episode with Sherwood, who then used the media to make Levy and teh club look like a bunch of mugs.

It seems harsh on De Boer, but if you have to choose between 2 people and they are pretty much neck and neck, Pochettino's complete and total professionalism during this whole episode must have swung things MASSIVELY in his favour and that's how it is now looking.

thats all great but then Levy shouldnt get into a huff if we finish 5th/6th a couple of seasons in a row under Poch and dont win anything either.
 
I still don't understand why David Moyes is in the betting running for next Spurs manager. There's no way that Levy would make an appointment which would be that unpopular.

If he wants an unpopular manager with the potential to deliver results, he may as well have kept Sherwood.

Just the lack of imagination/understanding of the betting public.


He doesnt seem the type to cause a fuss, to make outrageous transfer demands. He will come in and make do with what he has whilst Levy and Baldini continue to bring in players they want rather than what any manager would necessarily want.

The problem at Spurs is that Levy and Lewis, the fans also, believe that we are a great great club that deserves to be at the top, in the CL, winning cups and all that, but when it comes to appointing a manager to achieve all this we are seriously considering a guy who has only managed Espanyol and Southampton and has no record of success at all 8-[

The first paragraph sounds exactly what we need. Tbh the mark of a modern coach is that they can quickly come in and forge a team out of individuals that are put at their disposal. Aside from Wenger, no coach in football gets to build their own teams anymore. With an average life expectancy of 1.8 years, there's no way they should be doing so either.


I just want a manager who fits our club. Someone who likes high tempo exciting football, good man manager and media savvy. Don't know who fits that profile best.

Poch's football is more exciting than FdB and certainly Benitez

Poch and FdB are both supposed to be excellent man managers. Benitez reasonably so

Poch is the most media savvy (use of a translator he doesn't need is very clever). FdB has probably not been tested in an intense environment like the British, Italian or Spanish press create. Benitez's 'fact, fact, fact' breakdown is obviously well known.
 
I want someone whose been round the block a few times. A manager with a proven CV. What I don't want is another gamble on a young unproven manager. We've been down that road too many times. I know there are no guarantees on any appointment and it's always a gamble to some extent but let's at least try and shorten the odds.

I think Levy should wait until the seasons are all over in Europe as well and then see who is available. The situations with LVG, Benitez, and Ancelotti will be clearer then. It may be that we won't have a chance of getting any of those anyway buts let aim high before we take a punt on one of those younger fellas.

I think they are clear tbh. LVG will go to Man U. Benitez will stay at Napoli. And Ancelotti will stay at Madrid.

Levy has had since December to work on this - he'll know what is going on in these cases very well.

We're lucky, at this point in time we seemingly have two excellent candidates to choose from in FdB and Poch.

If we wait till after the WC, Capello, Deschamps and Hodgson might come into play (while FdB and Poch move elsewhere or sign new contracts), but none of them are worth waiting for.
 
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If we wait till after the WC, Capello, Deschamps and Hodgson might come into play (while FdB and Poch move elsewhere or sign new contracts), but none of them are worth waiting for.

Would there be any World Cup manager that would be worth waiting until after the WC in July for? They would have to be a damn good candidate for us to have no manager in place from now until then and miss out on all that preparation time.
 
I think they are clear tbh. LVG will go to Man U. Benitez will stay at Napoli. And Ancelotti will stay at Madrid.

Levy has had since December to work on this - he'll know what is going on in these cases very well.

We're lucky, at this point in time we seemingly have two excellent candidates to choose from in FdB and Poch.

If we wait till after the WC, Capello, Deschamps and Hodgson might come into play (while FdB and Poch move elsewhere or sign new contracts), but none of them are worth waiting for.

things are not so clear....Ancelotti could still get the sack after finishing 3rd in La Liga and possibly losing the CL final. It appears Conte wants a new challenge and could soon leave Juve. They are two names who Spurs should want to talk to if they become available. Levy should wait till the start of June at least. The only need to rush is the potential vacancy at Arsanal if Wenger leaves. That would throw a spanner in the works
 
Re: ITK Thread

Well, I'd want to hear him speak the Queen's English before appointing him.

yeah it might be ok using a translator on the south coast after over 18 months in english football, but he wont get away with it at a club like Spurs....he will have to man up and directly address the journos
 
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