• Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara

Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

People change.

What was he then early 30s?...and I don't doubt quite a few were sucked in by the bright new world of Blair.

He had to junior minister roles in that time.

As an example I think it was him that was in charge of implementing the ID cards act way back when. Yet the other day he abolishes any modern policy on bringing them in. So are they a good idea or bad idea Andy?. It would be interesting to know his reasons, but in simple terms he's changed his mind on them.

Hmmm…I’d admire your faith in his good nature. His actions over the last few months have me doubting that tbh.
 
Not sure about 'faith in his good nature'.

Just the fact people (not everybody I'd add) can change as they age.

Experience is the best teacher, and all that.

I know a few people who have met him and know him well. And he's genuinely a kind person according to them. He's fair and compassionate.

However the job can make a monster out of angel in the pulbic eyes.

I'm really hopeful though.

And he is using the same marketing team as Mamdani.
 
I know a few people who have met him and know him well. And he's genuinely a kind person according to them. He's fair and compassionate.

However the job can make a monster out of angel in the pulbic eyes.

I'm really hopeful though.

And he is using the same marketing team as Mamdani.
We need to luck into someone that is the complete package, someone that cuts thru. They absolutely need good policies to go with it, and they'll have to be bold in that area as well. As tinkering or looking different but still hamstrung by the same old brick will end they same way.

And the changes we need could well be a 10 year path, so it's going to require someone special.

I think many at this point aren't concerned with the party, it's the person we need.

So many ways it could fail though, sadly.

(Bit pessimistic that last sentence, soz:))
 
We need to luck into someone that is the complete package, someone that cuts thru. They absolutely need good policies to go with it, and they'll have to be bold in that area as well. As tinkering or looking different but still hamstrung by the same old brick will end they same way.

And the changes we need could well be a 10 year path, so it's going to require someone special.

I think many at this point aren't concerned with the party, it's the person we need.

So many ways it could fail though, sadly.

(Bit pessimistic that last sentence, soz:))

He will need some big wins early though because Farage/Refirm like them or not have a big pull and they can always pull the leaver of aligning with the Torries if Labours good polling since Burnham is genuine.

The ultimate issue he has is that the UK has fallen so far behind economically while cost of living has been increasing at the same rate as the countries where the economy has grown. Basically a Mediterranean country now. Hot weather, brick economy, good football team 😆
 
What do you think will actually change this? What will be the catalyst?
Beyond everything just changes at some point. (Which it does:))

It's a great question. I find myself thinking that we might well be looking at another 'pandemicesque' situation sadly. With the reductions in funding for bodies such as the CDC and some important global health initiatives, it feels like we are not just sleep-walking, but impudently marching towards another global health crisis?
 
Back