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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

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Thoughts? Having some background and not practicing of any religion. I know it’s easy to just say that TR is a racist, a bigot etc … but then you see this and most Sikhs that I know don’t have a problem or take issue with TR. those that have met him in Sikh temples have said that he’s helped highlight some of the struggles that they have faced.

I know it goes against the BBC narrative and racist claims.
 
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Thoughts? Having some background and not practicing of any religion. I know it’s easy to just say that TR is a racist, a bigot etc … but then you see this and most Sikhs that I know don’t have a problem or take issue with TR. those that have met him in Sikh temples have said that he’s helped highlight some of the struggles that they have faced.

I know it goes against the BBC narrative and racist claims.
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Yeah, he seems a really good community-minded bloke tbf.

I mean, even when he was on holiday in Cyprus a couple of years ago he didn’t allow himself to properly relax, instead making sure that he stayed busy online inspiring and co-ordinating people coming together to attack hotels and mosques.

#selfless
 
Gazza said:
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Thoughts? Having some background and not practicing of any religion. I know it’s easy to just say that TR is a racist, a bigot etc … but then you see this and most Sikhs that I know don’t have a problem or take issue with TR. those that have met him in Sikh temples have said that he’s helped highlight some of the struggles that they have faced.

I know it goes against the BBC narrative and racist claims.
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I mean yeh, decent video, but that hardly changes much about him and doesn't unpick 20 years of nonsense.

If you are going to be honest with yourself that video could and should be applied to 99.9% of the good hard working and vilified Muslims in this country, so you have to ask yourself why he doesn't apply the same logic?

The guy now, if you like if or I like or anyone else likes it has a responsibility because of his profile a profile which has, ironically, given his main gambit on radicalisation has inspired both Breivik and Osbourne in recent years, any normal human doesn't just come out and say "its nothing to do with me" or call them nutters they come out, condemn it and promote a society where these people are put off doing what they do, but he does the absolute opposite. If two people like that did anything in my name or in association with my name I would spend my life campaigning against it, trust me on that, I wouldn't be dedicating my life to further splintering society and creating the next "time bomb" to use one of his own terms.

I know you have been to a march and shook the blokes hand, but lets be real here, its not a BBC narrative about him being racist, its things like calling people inbred and pak1s and how if he was Norwegian he would "shoot them all" that makes him a racist mate
 
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I mean yeh, decent video, but that hardly changes much about him and doesn't unpick 20 years of nonsense.

If you are going to be honest with yourself that video could and should be applied to 99.9% of the good hard working and vilified Muslims in this country, so you have to ask yourself why he doesn't apply the same logic?

The guy now, if you like if or I like or anyone else likes it has a responsibility because of his profile a profile which has, ironically, given his main gambit on radicalisation has inspired both Breivik and Osbourne in recent years, any normal human doesn't just come out and say "its nothing to do with me" or call them nutters they come out, condemn it and promote a society where these people are put off doing what they do, but he does the absolute opposite. If two people like that did anything in my name or in association with my name I would spend my life campaigning against it, trust me on that, I wouldn't be dedicating my life to further splintering society and creating the next "time bomb" to use one of his own terms.

I know you have been to a march and shook the blokes hand, but lets be real here, its not a BBC narrative about him being racist, its things like calling people inbred and pak1s and how if he was Norwegian he would "shoot them all" that makes him a racist mate
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I’ve not shook the man’s hand or gone to any marches. Like I said it’s just strange how he’s labelled a racist. But I think he obviously doesn’t agree with Islam or the political side of it.

I do like your research of knowing 99% of Muslims in the country.
 
Gazza said:
I’ve not shook the man’s hand or gone to any marches. Like I said it’s just strange how he’s labelled a racist. But I think he obviously doesn’t agree with Islam or the political side of it.

I do like your research of knowing 99% of Muslims in the country.
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Apologies I was sure you said you had met the guy at one of his marches, must be miss remembering

The 99% is clearly just a statement about the "majority of". And I stand by it
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Apologies I was sure you said you had met the guy at one of his marches, must be miss remembering

The 99% is clearly just a statement about the "majority of". And I stand by it
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He obviously has some rebuttals towards Islamism but I don’t know if he’s a racist. A bigot is somes eyes.
 
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He obviously has some rebuttals towards Islamism but I don’t know if he’s a racist. A bigot is somes eyes.
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I tell you one thing that cant be denied, his clear drugs abuse is getting progressively worse, even his own fans are calling him out about it, always seemingly on videos off his absolutely chops
 
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