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Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo
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Well if they enjoyed Wednesday and the last 2 seasons are anything to go by then they'll certainly enjoy next season.
Quite telling that they haven't been bothered about going upto now though
Daisuk
Andy Thompson
Yeah, as I said, I’m not exactly confident it will go well, but we simply cannot sack him after that. I was convinced he was going after all of those dreadful results, but it’s a clean slate again now for me. Let’s build on this and see where we go. Hopefully with some tactical adjustments along with it. If our league form is as poor as it has been now come say November, let’s re-assess then.
You didn't enjoy seeing over 200k Spurs fans having fun and being overjoyed at winning a trophy? Weird. If you can't find joy in that then maybe you would be better off stepping away. Can't imagine myself ever not taking great enjoyment at seeing a parade like yesterday.
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Muttley
Eidur Gudjohnsen
lol - did he actually say that? I missed it.
I'm becoming increasingly intolerant to his silly narratives. When we finish 10th he can say that season 3 was better. He also said that people need to look at the bigger picture and it's common to have one bad season over a long period. I thought that one was a bit premature as he was in season 2.
glasgowspur
Chris Jones
I feel exactly the same way about golf.
Been playing since I was a kid, love the game, played 3-4-5 times a week.
It was my escape.
Now I can't get on my course because it's booked solid 14 hours a day, the standard of golf and behaviour is shocking, the equipment costs are horrendous, my game and enjoyment is in the toilet.
Seriously considering giving it up altogether because it's affecting my life, I don't want to but maybe it's for the best.
But I've also come to realise that other things in my life are impacting on me and limiting my scope to enjoy not just golf but many of the good things in my life.
Sometimes taking a break from it makes you realise how much you love something and how much miss it.
Grays_1890
Gary Stevens
I feel a thread coming on about the reliability of that quote becauses Sons of Anarchy season 3 in Ireland was a sh1thouse
glasgowspur
Chris Jones
I'm waiting on the shoulder have done a fawlty towers and have stopped on a high after two seasons.
Grays_1890
Gary Stevens
Yeh a break is as good as a rest and all that. Mental health is key, if Spurs is impacting that I would take a break or look for the wins, for me this forum is a win because its in the most part healthy debate and good folk, twitters not and I can see that impacts peoples mental health, even mine but I manage it better now than say a year ago.
I think there are two camps or maybe three with the third slightly a merge of both. People who struggle with their mental health and take things badly, which happens to everyone to an extent, those that never seem to wanna be happy (I have seen alot of that on twitter ironically) and those that let either one drive the other.
Sometimes its good to walk away to get clarity. The Summer is the best break that can happen for some I think
Muttley
Eidur Gudjohnsen
I'm actually not into clean slates. For me, this "project" started about 2 years before Ange joined the club. We invested heavily in players that have become the mainstays of Ange's team. At the same time we have refreshed the entire leadership team and done major overhauls on scouting, medical team etc.
Ange then came along last season and took the manager baton for 2 seasons. He has perhaps the most important role in the long term project and we need to make sure he is the right man for next season. I'd be quite proud of my club if they released him stating that their expectations are higher than what he achieved this season. Making a EL win just table stakes would be a massive statement of intent from the board. I'm actually leaning on the other side at the moment for the reasons you say. Whilst Ange is quite arrogant, he has taken some hard knocks in the PL and had to learn. He's not learnt quickly enough in my opinion but he is at least learning. Whilst his pride would never admit it, he's the one that is having to change his approach and become a better manager. Change is slow with him, but there is a chance he can take the positive mindshare he has with the players and find his next plateau point. I am torn between the 2 choices though.
I always thought season 2 would be about top 6 finish, whilst season 3 would be about a genuine top 4 campaign. I'm less convinced on that one but we've at least got the CL campaign.
Muttley
Eidur Gudjohnsen
I did.
Mum died from dementia last September and outside of the natural caring role you take I threw myself into music in the last couple of years. I now play in multiple bands. Then the annual golf renewal came up and despite barely playing for 2-3 years I renewed again. For me, the golf club was more than just a round of golf. It was the culture that goes with it, not to mention the gym and the sauna/steam benefits. I had moved from 7 day to 5 day membership and now I'm going to be at the club as much as possible in the next 12 months. I want to play off my handicap of 14 again and perhaps even go beyond.
Chrissivad
Michael Carrick
Yeah he said it at the parade. He also said this when he first joined:
"But it’s not a desperation around just winning something, because I just don’t think that gets you a sustainable opportunity to be successful. The foundation is just to play the game a certain way, which I believe brings success but also excites the punters."
Not a desperation to win things but then gave up on the league in order to win something. Maybe his idea of sustainable is 21 league defeats in a season, who knows. Ironically we won it playing the complete opposite of what he believes in.
tommysvr
Michael Carrick
Things can change though, right? I think that’s one of Ange’s biggest positives. It’s the reason he’s gone from a no-name coach in Australia, only famous for an interview gone wrong to Asian Cup, J.League, SPL and Europa League winner. He’s adapted in every single job.
For all his dogmatic views, before you know it you’re looking back on how he’s changed without you even realising it. Remember the furore about set pieces?
Muttley
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Not in a negative way, but it's all quite intriguing. He has sort of backed himself into a corner with his contradictions. He now has to find version 3 of his football for next season with all the good bits from both his original AngeBall and his EL winning AngeWall. We don't need any of the AngeDull though. I definitely don't want any more of the AngeBull either.
Always find it funny people hanging onto every little thing a manager says. News flash, every human being is a walking contradiction. There would be thousands of times in my life what I've said I have contradicted myself, the difference is I don't have millions following and recording my every word on social media.
People were complaining he refused to budge from Ange ball. He played more pragmatically when games required in the cup. We were hamstrung with injuries and setup in a way which made sense to win the game. We won said game and given us one of the best few days in memory. We all know the league season was a poor one, yet I remember plenty of really good seasons in the league where we failed to win anything and it didn't give me this feeling of elation. Just fudging enjoy it.....
People were complaining he refused to budge from Ange ball. He played more pragmatically when games required in the cup. We were hamstrung with injuries and setup in a way which made sense to win the game. We won said game and given us one of the best few days in memory. We all know the league season was a poor one, yet I remember plenty of really good seasons in the league where we failed to win anything and it didn't give me this feeling of elation. Just fudging enjoy it.....
We are always going to be ridiculed by other fans. We will always ridicule other clubs. It's football.
tommysvr
Michael Carrick
I just don’t see how you get rid of the manager responsible for these scenes.
If you manage to turn even this into a negative, I genuinely don’t think the problem is Ange Postecoglou.
Legohamster
Tom Huddlestone
Quite easily if you put the league form into consideration and how easy we've been to beat in the PL for a prolonged period of time.
The club will take everything into consideration when making the call, including us being 17th in the league.
Either way, will back the club with the call
Grays_1890
Gary Stevens
Of course and that goes without saying, but there is absolutely no denying we put to bed a large monkey off our back and extinguished a HUGE level of rhetoric around this club. BE absolutely idiotic to create a new fire and aid gallons of fuel to it and give the footballing world, not just fans another reason to ridicule us. It also send a ridiculous cultural message to the fans the inner workings of the club and to the future IMO.
Just my view