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*** OMT Spurs vs Everton ***

I have arrived at the conclusion that our issues are psychological as much as anything, a combination of tactics which don't necessarily suit the players we have versus said-players then executing tactics poorly. All season we have been 'rough' with first touches, yet the game we play demands excellence. We then play the ball around the back as though we have Beckenbaurs back there; what do we expect? As for Keane's goal, how many worlds have been given up this season from approximately that area because we have simply folded into a deep-set position with no-one taking responsibility to close down the shooter? For me, in that specific instance, midfield has to do MUCH better, but let's be honest, when the entire side folds deep and decides pushing higher/forcing issues further up the pitch, you're asking for a miracle not to concede. Again, our defense ends up copping the major heat when it is (frankly) forced into situations that most of it are not the best at.

Personally? With 20 mins to go, and seeing how utterly insipid we'd become, I'd have been looking to get Kane and Son together up top and gone 3-5-2. Extra midfielder. 10 yards further up the pitch (it's not like Everton had a forward or any real pace). Those are the sorts of things our stand-ins are going to have to do if we are to salvage the season...IMO...
 
I can’t work out who should go to him there
But the fact he walks another 10 yards unchallenged says a lot

Part of the problem is Skipp following their number 7 and then getting caught flat-footed when Keane comes forward (taking 4 bloody touches before shooting) into the space he's made with nobody (Højbjerg) covering.
 
We’re actually in a decent 5-3-1 shape here with there being little danger.

Given he is (at that point) playing in sub-midfield, yes. I still think PEH could see that danger and make better tracks to get across and pressure Keane. It's Keane! The slightest pressure and he's concussing someone in the Galwadys end.
 
Part of the problem is Skipp following their number 7 and then getting caught flat-footed when Keane comes forward (taking 4 bloody touches before shooting) into the space he's made with nobody (Højbjerg) covering.

I think what disturbed me the most was the collective malaise. IF we're serious about clinging on for 3 points there, we should be playing with more overall heart. 4 points dropped in the last two games. If the games ended on 89 mins, we're third and looking really strong for top 4. If my Auntie had gonad*s, etc...
 
Given he is (at that point) playing in sub-midfield, yes. I still think PEH could see that danger and make better tracks to get across and pressure Keane. It's Keane! The slightest pressure and he's concussing someone in the Galwadys end.
Sorry mate….. it was never going to be PEH…. Skipp was the only player that could’ve got to Keane (though really it should’ve been Harry)
 
Christ that’s harsh
He is better with the ball than skipp or Hojberg from what I’ve seen
He also has an awareness of players running off him which those two lack
Man finished last with Metz în the farmer's league, others bring in the best DM în the world, Casemiro and we want to compete with that team. Let Sarr become a great player somewhere else on loan and not on our back. When he does, he is more than welcomed.
 
People trying to find the calprit to the goal when we should have been at least 2 în front by then with a surplus player. Even 10 vs 10 you should be able to keep 18th place at bay. You should not concede 2 în the last 15 minutes by the bottom placed team. We shouldn't blame one player, there is something wrong at the core. We are set up wrong, dont have enough quality and creativity to keep the ball and dont allow any chances.
 
Sorry mate….. it was never going to be PEH…. Skipp was the only player that could’ve got to Keane (though really it should’ve been Harry)

Harry should absolutely put pressure on Keane, no doubt. Skip is handling two potential issues there. PEH is late making the move inside to at least cause hesitation in Keane's run. There are several who are responsible for simply not putting in an extra 10% of effort at that stage, but PEH making a quicker shift across (IMO) leads to Keane either not taking the shot or shanking it for concern he'd be fully closed down by him. I think my anger was not so much actually getting the full block on Keane, as much as it was the lazy way he was allowed to even think of running and shooting.

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I have arrived at the conclusion that our issues are psychological as much as anything, a combination of tactics which don't necessarily suit the players we have versus said-players then executing tactics poorly. All season we have been 'rough' with first touches, yet the game we play demands excellence. We then play the ball around the back as though we have Beckenbaurs back there; what do we expect? As for Keane's goal, how many worlds have been given up this season from approximately that area because we have simply folded into a deep-set position with no-one taking responsibility to close down the shooter? For me, in that specific instance, midfield has to do MUCH better, but let's be honest, when the entire side folds deep and decides pushing higher/forcing issues further up the pitch, you're asking for a miracle not to concede. Again, our defense ends up copping the major heat when it is (frankly) forced into situations that most of it are not the best at.

Personally? With 20 mins to go, and seeing how utterly insipid we'd become, I'd have been looking to get Kane and Son together up top and gone 3-5-2. Extra midfielder. 10 yards further up the pitch (it's not like Everton had a forward or any real pace). Those are the sorts of things our stand-ins are going to have to do if we are to salvage the season...IMO...
That's a good shout , I was thinking we needed an extra midfielder as Son was doing nothing ( as usual ) to protect the defence so you might as well push him further forward or take him off.
I was screaming for a change much earlier but just like under Conte , nothing happened.
Nothing has changed has it ?
 
I have arrived at the conclusion that our issues are psychological as much as anything, a combination of tactics which don't necessarily suit the players we have versus said-players then executing tactics poorly. All season we have been 'rough' with first touches, yet the game we play demands excellence. We then play the ball around the back as though we have Beckenbaurs back there; what do we expect? As for Keane's goal, how many worlds have been given up this season from approximately that area because we have simply folded into a deep-set position with no-one taking responsibility to close down the shooter? For me, in that specific instance, midfield has to do MUCH better, but let's be honest, when the entire side folds deep and decides pushing higher/forcing issues further up the pitch, you're asking for a miracle not to concede. Again, our defense ends up copping the major heat when it is (frankly) forced into situations that most of it are not the best at.

Personally? With 20 mins to go, and seeing how utterly insipid we'd become, I'd have been looking to get Kane and Son together up top and gone 3-5-2. Extra midfielder. 10 yards further up the pitch (it's not like Everton had a forward or any real pace). Those are the sorts of things our stand-ins are going to have to do if we are to salvage the season...IMO...
I think there is a social issue... In the sense that the players don't enjoy playing together. Yes they celebrate goals... I mean who doesn't... Buy Conte is right they play as individuals not a team.

It's particularly obvious when we are defending. No one taking the initiative to cover gaps, covering each other but just sticking to the formation (for fear of no one covering?)

Might sound unfair but I expect more from Kane and Dier being the two most senior and English players on the pitch. They may be our most senior and experienced but their influence over the squad is insignificant.
 
fudge me, didn't see it as I was out playing a match but it sounds grim.

Levy's fudged our season and he's gonna cost himself top 4. Things are pretty shambolic right now. Hard to get enthusiastic about anything Tottenham at the minute.
Oh so it's Levys fault that the players play themselves into trouble?
If you're talking about sacking Conte, most in here were screaming for it for a long time. And when he does it, that's wrong too.
No matter what he does, it's wrong, even when it's what everyone wanted....
 
Look at Højbjerg here. In this passage of play he is strolling back infield. Keane carries the ball forward 10 yards before he starts to run. That is shocking. I realise he is a man behind him, but that should be for Perisic to cover.

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Nothing wrong wrong with Højbergs position there. Maybe should be 5 yards further infield, but that's where he's heading. It's actually Kane who should sprint and put pressure on Keane.
 
Nothing wrong wrong with Højbergs position there. Maybe should be 5 yards further infield, but that's where he's heading. It's actually Kane who should sprint and put pressure on Keane.

Not talking about his position. It's the fact that he is walking, then jogging and only starts sprinting after Keane has moved forward about 10 yards.
 
Not talking about his position. It's the fact that he is walking, then jogging and only starts sprinting after Keane has moved forward about 10 yards.
PEH was atrocious last night. Don’t get some of the plaudits he gets. Constantly does what you said above. He’s reactive does not read the game that well. Thought Skipp had a poor game also.

Sarr maybe a young prospect but he certainly looks a better player than PEH with the ball at his feet. His passing looks miles ahead. He’s going to make mistakes but just play him. We got two hod carriers in there at the minute. Nothing more. Sarr offers something different.
 
Oh so it's Levys fault that the players play themselves into trouble?
If you're talking about sacking Conte, most in here were screaming for it for a long time. And when he does it, that's wrong too.
No matter what he does, it's wrong, even when it's what everyone wanted....

You could see the Conte sacking coming since about January. How have we not got a replacement lined up with so much to play for? Instead, we’re letting Contes assistant, who has limited experience at this level, and Ryan Mason run the show. That’s poor planning.

The Paratici situation - it’s incredible that it’s gotten to this point. The timing may be unfortunate but it’s piling a lot of scrutiny on the club and adding to the sense that we’re a mess. Again, it’s something that you could see coming.

That sort of lack of planning is on Levy.
 
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