New New Manager Poll (The Lets Get It Right This Time Edition)

[Bedfordspurs]

an unstoppable finisher that turns up when it matters?

get him in

Yep

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I might be biased because he's Irish, but he looks like the real deal, think we should be looking to get him in the summer before he has another season and everyone starts circling him.

Of course you are
As I am watching him over 10 games
But I did read up on him and who wanted him before Brighton. He isn’t an unknown
He just doesn’t the double barrel name of all the England players

 

[DubSpur]

Buying him some new central defenders that he wants so that Lenglet and Dier are nowhere near first choice starters?

He should've told that CBs were his priority then. He was given plenty of funding to improve the squad, if he didn't improve the right areas that's down to him and Paratici.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Maybe he shouldn't have insisted on a £60M back up striker and a £25M midfielder he didn't play, or a £45M RWB when he already had 3?

He could have spent £100M on CB over summer, or £45M on a CB in January, but he insisted on other players ..

Insisted? We don’t know
What we do know is we couldnt get the player he wanted for the Cb role in the summer as he refereed to move
So we didn’t speculate on another player that conte may not play

 

[DTA]

Ferguson is outstanding
I’d love him as kanes replacement
He is Kane crossed with Rooney for me

really like the look of him as well. Need to watch him more but the guy really looks like he could be special

 

[Baleforce]

United away easy? they won, and united were garbage at the start of the season
West ham away? We drew there relegation candidate
They drew with Saudi Sportswashing Machine
Beat Leeds and Lestah and lost to Fulham away relegation candidates
The new guy came in and didn’t win until his 6th game
De Zerbi is a great coach by the way
Was doing great things before Brighton. So was potter
Chelsea is a car crash. Any club that’s spend £600m and doesn’t buy a goal scorers is mental

like for like in games this season and last would be a better indicator imo

 

[Bedfordspurs]

like for like in games this season and last would be a better indicator imo

Would it?
When people are comparing potter to his replacement?
Surely the use of the same squad would be a better measure

 

[Bedfordspurs]

like for like in games this season and last would be a better indicator imo

Ok
Last season they lost to united away 2 nil
They drew with West Ham away
They drew with Leeds
Best Leicester at home 2-1
For Fulham I wouldn’t knowing who to swap in but that’s the game they lost
So they were 7 points better off after 6 games

 

[Baleforce]

Would it?
When people are comparing potter to his replacement?
Surely the use of the same squad would be a better measure

Ok
Last season they lost to united away 2 nil
They drew with West Ham away
They drew with Leeds
Best Leicester at home 2-1
For Fulham I wouldn’t knowing who to swap in but that’s the game they lost
So they were 7 points better off after 6 games

I meant the other part would be more useful, imo, what did Potter get from the 20 games De Zerbi has had this season?

 

[Lilbaz]

Trying to convince myself it isn't my mind in self preservation mode, but (think gutterboy called it) the AVB vibes are a bit strong.

Glad Chelsea pulled the plug, let them get their manager, it removes some of the idiot speculation.

By the way, people really think Levy "isn't a football man", let me show you what that looks like
- Chelsea buy Tuchel £200M+ worth of players
- Chelsea fire Tuchel in two months, payoff of £13M
- Chelsea pay Brighton £21M to get Potter
- Chelsea sign Potter on 5 years deal
- Chelsea spend another £200M+ on players
- Chelsea sack Potter, payout could be up to £50M
- If Chelsea get Nagelsmann before end of season, they will have to pay Bayern comp
And with all of that, are in 11th

We are a circus, but I really don't know wtf to say ...

Their wages + amortisation + agents fees is currently at 92% of turnover (accoriding to swiss ramble). They are allowed it to be 90% for this year. 80% next year and 70% the year after.

That doesn't include the payoff for potter. So they will have to sell a player to cover that expense and keep selling to stay within the rules over the next couple of years especially with no cl revenue next season. They have loads of players they can sell. So they'll be fine (if they can sell). But a new manager won't be getting a warchest.

 

[alekaras]

There are some decent managers out there, but it is starting to look exactly the same as our previous farce of a manager's search that took months and ended up with the guy no one else wanted in Nuno.

These managers will be snapped up or tied down elsewhere while we dither.

Remember how the search started in 2021. We basically did nothing until the end of the season, losing two months. Then we half heartedly tried to pursue Conte post his departure from Inter, but he wanted to take a break. Then we tried for Poch, but he wanted to stay at PSG. Then we tried for that rando fresh off being sacked, Paulo Fonseca - appointed Paratici, who immediately dumped that target and tried for Gattuso, which fell through because of his past comments. In the meantime, Graham Potter rejected us for being too unstable. In the end we were stuck with Nuno.

We risk exactly the same happening now. Nagelsmann is waiting for a better offer, de Zerbi will probably stay at Brighton, ditto Frank - fine, dump them and swiftly move on, and identify guys that actually want to be here and build something.

To my mind, there are only two managers that fit that criteria and that I want to see here - Poch, and Gallardo. Neither will treat us as beneath them, both are in their own ways perfect for where we're going to sink after this season.

Except for the unlikely eventuality of Stellini winning every game and getting the job permanently, we should be rushing to lock one of those two down ASAP, imo.

First of all, we don't know what is happening behind the scenes. For all we know, we may have a manager already tied down, but of course it won't be announced until the summer.

Second, just because ONCE we bumbled the manager appointment, now it's the norm all of a sudden?! I mean, come on.

 

[alekaras]

Just dont see Levy appointing someone who has never managed in Europe before.

To highlight how unusual that would be, can you think of any manager who has moved from Latam to Europe where their first job has either been at a meaningful team in the PL or frankly any team in the top few in Spain/Italy/Ger?

Doesn't seem like a risk that Levy would take

Simeone. He had managed 4 months at Catania, then moved back to manage in Argentina, and a year or two later Atletico hired him. Now if you count 4 months at a relegation team as experience in Europe, I guess Simeone doesn't count either.

 

[alekaras]

I think I read that Gallardo doesn’t speak English? Wouldn’t seem the most sensible of moves to put someone in charge of a situation which needs quite a bit of sorting out if they don’t speak the language.

Meanwhile, in other news…

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/spurs-tottenham-pochettino-manager-exclusive-29604452

He does, albeit passable. But he has been taking English lessons since October.

 

[tommysvr]

All roads lead to Poch or Ange.

 

[metalgear]

How long before Levy appoints a manager?
Lots of choices but also competition now.

 

[metalgear]

uh people maybe need to look at the results Brighton had this season with potter in charge though…

6 league games
1 defeat
5 wins
11 goals for (1.8 per game)
5 goals against (0.8 per game)
That’s a pretty decent return with the squad that de zerbi came in and took on
They didn’t sign more starters in January

since then they have scored 38 more goals over 20 Games (1.9)
But conceded 29 (1.45)
So they are scoring more but conceding more with the same players

Sp Potter better than de zerbi

 

[totalspurs]

Conte wasn't backed?? What would be backing a manager then?

Backing the manager's vision, is different to just buying some players.

All three of our previous managers had the same things to say, the culture needed changing at the club. They made reference to how we approach negotiations and targets. The fact we can't seem to get the players the manager truly want is because our approach is wrong, and that is down the people conducting the business... ultimately that comes down to the Leadership team and that stops wit Levy.

If he has already hired a manager to start at the end of the season, he could communicate that to ensure to all stakeholders (which include the fans) are aware of the strategic direction. At the moment the moral and confidence is very low and that effects confidence in the organisation and becomes damaging.

We don't know, cause he hasn't said anything other than we have have interim management on secondment till the end of the season, and recruitment for a permanent manager is in progress. We are headhunting, just like we were last year.

What we know is that other clubs are more decisive in their decision making than Levy. Other clubs may not be better than us at making the right appointment, but we aren't very good at it if you consider 4 dismissals in 4 years.

Either Levy is hiring the wrong candidate or he is not supporting the appointed Manager by backing them 100% to be successful in their post. In the end the buck lays with Senior Management.

He should already know by now the type of manager which is required for taking the club forward based on our culture and ethos. He should have had a exit strategy for firing Conte since the world cup as there were murmuring even before that. That's basic responsible management.

Hell even based on last summer's messed up recruitment drive, he should have internally reviewed the faillings and put measures in place for future learning.

At this time we can't see any lessons learnt and no sign of decisive leadership from Levy.

We all knew Conte was being sack a week before he was sacked, with so many high calibre managers currently available he could have made an appointment very quickly, got the new manager bounce and tried to get us in the top 4.

Now we have to hope and pray he has already agreed with someone to take the job, and that the outcome of C.L finish is not a condition to appointment. Whilst the players and fans plod through in uncertainty and fear of what will happen to our club. Whilst at the same time the image of the club gets dragged through the mud on a daily basis in the media.
That's incompetent leadership. He should do the honourable thing and step down. I'm sure there are plenty of top CEO's who ENIC can headhunt to replace Levy and bring a new direction to our club?

 

[AjaxDeSuperYids]

The options should be Poch, Nagelsmann, De Zerbi and Gallardo.

The first three might not be attainable so I hope we are making positive contacts to Gallardo and his people.

 

[Gazza]

The options should be Poch, Nagelsmann, De Zerbi and Gallardo.

The first three might not be attainable so I hope we are making positive contacts to Gallardo and his people.

How about a Santini Jol special with Poch and Gallardo ? Nah never going to happen ....

 

[AjaxDeSuperYids]

The options should be Poch, Nagelsmann, De Zerbi and Gallardo.

The first three might not be attainable so I hope we are making positive contacts to Gallardo and his people.

Forgot Slot so make that 5 options.