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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

imcallingbullsh*t said:
FSG have provided Loans to Liverpool so not sure what your point is, actually i know what your point is, everyone does. Magic up a billionaire who will spend loads of money as a gift to Tottenham.

If a player (Rabiot, Willian etc etc) doesn't want to come just give them more money, if that annoys Kane then just pay him some more.

You seem to prefer the chelsea model, get 1.2billion in debt with the hope that the success you achieve, generates enough income to buy more players and continued success. Its a well trodden argument however what youre asking for is a massive gamble with little to no guarantee of success, especially with the inflation of players costs and wages.
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I've said it before, but no, they haven't. Check it, if you don't believe me. They've actually cleared off far more in terms of converting debt to equity than they've ever added on.

As for the 'model' we operate under, this is an aside, but (with all due respect), the sense of moral superiority over our model seems a little strange to me. What's so moral about being run the way we are, as a cheap vehicle to flip for enormous profits with no investment required on the owner's part?

If we were run with a focus on affordable tickets for local fans, great, no complaints from me - we're run sustainably, and *morally*. If we were run in a way that puts large amounts into our Trust every season, great - no complaints from me, we're run sustainably and *morally*.

That is moral. Being some cheap flip-on for a tax exile billionaire in the Bahamas who made his money shorting the pound on Black Wednesday? Charging the highest ticket prices in the league in the process? Not even paying a living wage to our staff?

What is moral about that? With all due respect, it's just a little strange to me.
 
DubaiSpur said:
I've said it before, but no, they haven't. Check it, if you don't believe me. They've actually cleared off far more in terms of converting debt to equity than they've ever added on.

As for the 'model' we operate under, this is an aside, but (with all due respect), the sense of moral superiority over our model seems a little strange to me. What's so moral about being run the way we are, as a cheap vehicle to flip for enormous profits with no investment required on the owner's part?

If we were run with a focus on affordable tickets for local fans, great, no complaints from me - we're run sustainably, and *morally*. If we were run in a way that puts large amounts into our Trust every season, great - no complaints from me, we're run sustainably and *morally*.

That is moral. Being some cheap flip-on for a tax exile billionaire in the Bahamas who made his money shorting the pound on Black Wednesday? Charging the highest ticket prices in the league in the process? Not even paying a living wage to our staff?

What is moral about that? With all due respect, it's just a little strange to me.
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I didnt mention morality once, so no idea once again what point you are trying to make, you seem to have a anti-Lewis and anti-Levy agenda rather than a way the club are trying to operate.

You dont live in the UK, you dont buy a ST, if we became a fan owned entity in the 2nd Division where a ST was £100 you'd be happy... Hmm think ill take that with a pinch of salt.
 
imcallingbullsh*t said:
I didnt mention morality once, so no idea once again what point you are trying to make, you seem to have a anti-Lewis and anti-Levy agenda rather than a way the club are trying to operate.

You dont live in the UK, you dont buy a ST, if we became a fan owned entity in the 2nd Division where a ST was £100 you'd be happy... Hmm think ill take that with a pinch of salt.
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Re: Levy and Lewis, I've heard the word 'agenda' thrown around by far too many overbearing forum police types to take it seriously, so forgive me if I don't. I think they've done a roughly above-average job of using the club's own money in a competent fashion, and I'd prefer they sell up, take their well-earned profit and leave. That's it.

As for the rest of it, a) what is preferable about our 'model', compared to, say, Liverpool's? Or even Chelsea's?

Simple question.

And b) not sure why you're taking digs at me for where I live or what I'd prefer our ownership to look like. Not relevant, surely.
 
BrainOfLevy said:
I don't know if you've read the 'every word' transcript from Football.London, but I just did and 'we're skint' wasn't what I took from it at all. It's about the right player, as always. If we're in the stadium, that's when he thinks we will have no excuse and should start winning titles. It's a journey to get there.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1090325415107940353

We're skint, and there is probably no right player. He doesn't want second-choices, but we don't seem at all willing to pay for his first choices, so what option is there?
 
DubaiSpur said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1090325415107940353

We're skint, and there is probably no right player. He doesn't want second-choices, but we don't seem at all willing to pay for his first choices, so what option is there?
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Nearly there mate. THIS is why he wanted shot of Dembele, Alderweireld and Wanyama in the summer, so as he could convince the top level targets to come in and offer them first team football providing they meet their end of the bargain. It has been a massive issue. Those targets look and ask where their guarantee is given who is ahead of them. It is why we do certainly need to move a couple on to get a couple in. AND maintain top 4 so as when the summer arrives we can buy them and pay them. Again, this is not a revelation, Poch has said this time and time again but people (not you) simply ignore the deeper facts.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Poch says ten different things in a single interview, but 'we're skint' is finally coming through, loud and clear.

We're skint, which makes all this talk of us waiting for the 'right player' useless. The right player costs nothing, plays for nothing and is still Poch's first choice - anything else doesn't fit into the constraints ENIC has us operating under.
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No he doesn't! He would be a fool to come out and address what money we have publicly. He'd a be a fool to address any aspects of out transfer policy publicly. IMO people need to get off his -and the club's- back and let them get on with it through the new stadium.

If we cannot trust this man, if we cannot trust the developments this club has made off the pitch as well as on it over the last four years as. club, then honestly, we don't deserve any of it and should just get Ruel Fox, Willie Young, Christian Gross, Terry Neil, Neil McNobb, etc, out of retirement and toss Ginola on as a sub to give the occasional glory 10 seconds.

p.s. when he spoke of "being brave" I tried to give my view of that comment and it was largely ignored. I'll say it again, he essentially said stop buying chairs for sofas, I've had chairs and they don't work, I'd rather wait with the chairs I have until I can get the sofa I want. Said-sofa is not always a case of money, sometimes it is a case of dimensions and fit!!!!!
 
thfcsteff said:
No he doesn't! He would be a fool to come out and address what money we have publicly. He'd a be a fool to address any aspects of out transfer policy publicly. IMO people need to get off his -and the club's- back and let them get on with it through the new stadium.

If we cannot trust this man, if we cannot trust the developments this club has made off the pitch as well as on it over the last four years as. club, then honestly, we don't deserve any of it and should just get Ruel Fox, Willie Young, Christian Gross, Terry Neil, Neil McNobb, etc, out of retirement and toss Ginola on as a sub to give the occasional glory 10 seconds.

p.s. when he spoke of "being brave" I tried to give my view of that comment and it was largely ignored. I'll say it again, he essentially said stop buying chairs for sofas, I've had chairs and they don't work, I'd rather wait with the chairs I have until I can get the sofa I want. Said-sofa is not always a case of money, sometimes it is a case of dimensions and fit!!!!!
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What chairs do you have in your VW? And if Poch gets the right sofa will there be enough money behind the cushions for him to buy Jack Grealish and make all Spurs fans happy?
 
DubaiSpur said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1090325415107940353

We're skint, and there is probably no right player. He doesn't want second-choices, but we don't seem at all willing to pay for his first choices, so what option is there?
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That's a slightly creative interpretation of what he said, which was actually "the other 4 are super rich and can buy. We are building towards getting to that level, but it takes time, focus and patience"
 
DubaiSpur said:
Poch says ten different things in a single interview, but 'we're skint' is finally coming through, loud and clear.

We're skint, which makes all this talk of us waiting for the 'right player' useless. The right player costs nothing, plays for nothing and is still Poch's first choice - anything else doesn't fit into the constraints ENIC has us operating under.
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You really are like a dog with a bone :rolleyes:, your agenda against Levy and co is laughable.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Poch says ten different things in a single interview, but 'we're skint' is finally coming through, loud and clear.

We're skint, which makes all this talk of us waiting for the 'right player' useless. The right player costs nothing, plays for nothing and is still Poch's first choice - anything else doesn't fit into the constraints ENIC has us operating under.
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