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UK travel to the US is down 14+%

UK events industry are avoiding it because of Trump led impacts.....cost of doing business rise, immigration impact on international delegates. Using the example of yesterday when my client confirmed BC citing his board decision due to costs and the impact of Trump, I suppose he is lying and it wasn't that despite people having the choice to change their minds over any reason they want??

The escalating cost of events due to tariffs is killing international events into the destination, Vegas is the largest conventions city in the US, its 100% impacting tourism into the destination

Those are just facts.

I'm talking about international impacted travel into Vegas and the US, its massively down, that cant be disputed.

I dont care about the domestic performance, although surely Trump is responsible for domestic pressures and people being priced out?

I’m not disputing that you are right specific to the UK and conventions. Domestic convention business is down as well but that won’t have been as heavily impacted by the tarrifs.

But the UK would account for a 0.135% descrease.
 
I’m not disputing that you are right specific to the UK and conventions. Domestic convention business is down as well but that won’t have been as heavily impacted by the tarrifs.

But the UK would account for a 0.135% descrease.
Equally tourism is the central governments responsibility, then the DMO (destination marketing organisation) aka the city, funded by hotel tax and the CVBs, the convention bureau again funded by hotels.

Any rise or decline is the responsibility of the incumbent government,
 
Equally tourism is the central governments responsibility, then the DMO (destination marketing organisation) aka the city, funded by hotel tax and the CVBs, the convention bureau again funded by hotels.

Any rise or decline is the responsibility of the incumbent government,

I’m not disputing what your saying is true for UK and International tourism and conventions. Although the video posted says that convention business has not declined lol.

But even if you were to grossly exaggerate the responsibility that has for the decline in Las Vegas tourism, it’s still way less of a factor compared to sports gambling being legalised in the US an Las Vegas no longer being an affordable destination.

The drop itself is concerning but the Las Vegas economy is growing in other ways
largely making up for the shortfall. Its actually a positive that its becoming less reliant on tourism.
 
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I’m not disputing what your saying is true for UK and International tourism and conventions. Although the video posted says that convention business has not declined lol..
UK business into the US is vastly down

International convention business into Vegas is down

It's just facts mate. Luckily for people like me or clients, the worlds a big place and other countries are dynamic in taking advantage, many offering tax free conventions, rebates and subvention

Whether you like it or not Trumps responsible for both domestic and international tourism. It comes with the presidency

As for the LOL I can't help you conflating domestic and international....I've been very clear on what I'm talking about
 
UK business into the US is vastly down

International convention business into Vegas is down

It's just facts mate. Luckily for people like me or clients, the worlds a big place and other countries are dynamic in taking advantage, many offering tax free conventions, rebates and subvention

Whether you like it or not Trumps responsible for both domestic and international tourism. It comes with the presidency

Yes. Trump is responsible for the 0.675% drop in Las Vegas tourism.
 
Yes. Trump is responsible for the 0.675% drop in Las Vegas tourism.
And as the head of government any other drop in tourism

It comes with the job.....unfortunately for him

14% countrywide drop from the UK, let's not even talk about Canada and Mexico avoiding the country too.

But yeh, go Trump
 
And as the head of government any other drop in tourism

It comes with the job.....unfortunately for him

14% countrywide drop from the UK, let's not even talk about Canada and Mexico avoiding the country too.

But yeh, go Trump

I’m not saying it’s a positive thing or that he’s not played his part. But speak into Vegas it’s down to other reasons. Gambling being legalised and the economy, which both parties hold responsibility for. I’m positive you would not have blamed the poor economy under Biden entirely on him, likewise I would not give Trump sole responsibility for the good pre Covid economy during his first term.

There hasn’t been a drop in convention business though according to the DMO. International is down but has been made up by domestic business.

https://press.lvcva.com/news-releas...4df5-b0da-c20fc38fa2ac?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Article says the following.

Convention business itself held up much better than leisure tourism About 6.0 million convention attendees were recorded in 2025 nearly flat with 2024 and close to prior levels, not dropping sharply.

There has been a reduction in international-sourced convention business in Las Vegas, though overall annual convention attendance hasn’t plunged as dramatically as total international travel numbers
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I’m not saying it’s a positive thing or that he’s not played his part. But speak into Vegas it’s down to other reasons. Gambling being legalised and the economy, which both parties hold responsibility for. I’m positive you would not have blamed the poor economy under Biden entirely on him, likewise I would not give Trump sole responsibility for the good pre Covid economy during his first term.

There hasn’t been a drop in convention business though according to the DMO. International is down but has been made up by domestic business.

https://press.lvcva.com/news-releas...4df5-b0da-c20fc38fa2ac?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Article says the following.

Convention business itself held up much better than leisure tourism About 6.0 million convention attendees were recorded in 2025 nearly flat with 2024 and close to prior levels, not dropping sharply.

There has been a reduction in international-sourced convention business in Las Vegas, though overall annual convention attendance hasn’t plunged as dramatically as total international travel numbers
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Mate your international visitors stats in national tourism are taking a bath, it can't be denied.

Trump is the figure head of Tourism to the US, if its down nationally he is responsible for it, the same as he is unemployment or any other national KPI that governments are judged by.

Your initial comment was Trump had little part to play in the reduction of tourism in Vegas, he clearly does and he does nationally.
 
Mate your international visitors stats in national tourism are taking a bath, it can't be denied.

Trump is the figure head of Tourism to the US, if its down nationally he is responsible for it, the same as he is unemployment or any other national KPI that governments are judged by.

Your initial comment was Trump had little part to play in the reduction of tourism in Vegas, he clearly does and he does nationally.

Rob won't focus on his initial BS. Will move the goal posts and make another point. Robs almost always wrong. And Rob defo has been to Vegas in computer games.
 
Rob won't focus on his initial BS. Will move the goal posts and make another point. Robs almost always wrong. And Rob defo has been to Vegas in computer games.

What are you suggesting here is that I have assumed the identity of someone living in Las Vegas for the purposes of being an alt account on a Spurs forum 🤣
 
I was about to say. Like everywhere, there is the Vegas that us tourists see and there is the place that the locals live. Where do you live in Vegas?

I've been 5 or 6 times with different work events and had some friends that lived outside the tourist areas. They seemed to love living there.

My favourite place for a blow out in the US would be New Orleans, not Vegas.

I personally love living here. Although I am someone that would probably be happy anywhere that’s not ridicliously cold. My final 2 years of University were in Las Vegas and that’s where I met my wife who was born here. I have a good social circle from that time and still play football 3x a week which is how I made many British/European expat friends. Follow my vets team @threelionsfclasvegas on instagram please we are trying got get a sponsor.

I live in the north west Skye Canyon area which is 20 minute drive from the strip. When I bought my first home here in 2012 it was very cheap although it would be 2.5x that now so less affordable for new people. There is no state tax in Nevada so you keep more of your money.

If you like the outdoors this is a great place to live. I also golf, play paddle and hike a lot. You get hikers and rock climbers coming from all over the world and not going near the strip. There are lakes for people who like fishing and boating. It’s nice weather most of the year so I walk my son 4 miles every day. My father in law has NHL Golden Knights and NFL Raiders season tickets so go to a lot of games. I’m a Dallas Cowboys fan though. They are building a baseball stadium and should get an NBA & MLS team eventually. I am into UFC & Boxing so go to a lot of good shows here. The local food scene is phenomenal because off strip is a proving ground for Chefs to get a casino gig. Can’t get a good Indian though that’s a US wide issue.

On the negative side now that I have kids I am having to think about some of the pitfuls of living here. The schools here are terrible for starters so wr have to send my daughter and eventually son to a private school.

This is a town where trouble will find you vs you having to look for it. I lived in Mallorca from 14-18, back to North London for a year (worked at Spurs Shop 04/05 season) then went to South Carolina for Universirty when I was 19. Most kids in those places were not sexually active. There would be a party and drinking scene but in none of those places did I witness much heavy drug use beyond weed. I wouldn’t have been able to tell you where to buy it let alone use.

Kids in Vegas grow up too fast though. Sex and drugs at a much younger age. You can’t completely shelter your kids but you also can’t willingly expose them to this stuff as well. My final 2 years of school were here at UNLV where cocaine and pills were the norm and most started doing those in High School. Huge Aderall problem as well. First house party I went to there was a 3 way taking place with people watching. Even had a bizzare story a few weeks back where a group of 13 year old boys gang raped another boy on a school trip. I dabbled in some of that stuff (not the public threesomes and rapes) but I was 21 by that point and you can deal with it better.
 
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