Transfer thread

[WillWeEverBeGoodAgain]

Also IF fit Udogie is better suited to RDZ

Look at his record, it's dreadful, he will never be fit all season is made of balsa wood

 

[WillWeEverBeGoodAgain]

If Kroupi is going to only miss the 1st 5 games why don't we still sign him ?
Surely with a broken toe a doctor by now could say yes it's healing fine/going to be fine

 

[NaijaSpurs]

Because we want sales it seems and no one wants to buy our expensive players
Madness to sell Lankshear and that’s a hill I’ll die on

Absolutely our worst decision of the summer. I truly believe this is a decision we will regret.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

Absolutely our worst decision of the summer. I truly believe this is a decision we will regret.

I think it was a difficult call, I don't believe he currently would have fitted into the way DeZebri wants to play. He is an out and out striker, his game may develop but I doubt he'll get much quicker.
I would have put him straight in the team and give him a long run whatever the results but I don't have 60k fans screaming at me. He'll need time and that's something most people will not give you unless you cost £60m

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Absolutely our worst decision of the summer. I truly believe this is a decision we will regret.

I saw him play a lot last year intentionally
And imo if a top manager can’t find a way to get a goal scorer in his team … it’s the manager who may be the issue

 

[Legohamster]

Absolutely our worst decision of the summer. I truly believe this is a decision we will regret.

Assuming it's the club and not the player that's pushed the move.

Player may not have wanted to hang around and be 3rd choice.

He's 21, he wants to play every week I imagine.

 

[Raziel]

Assuming it's the club and not the player that's pushed the move.

Player may not have wanted to hang around and be 3rd choice.

He's 21, he wants to play every week I imagine.

Another miss by people, he isn't 19, he's seeing Gray, Bergvall, even Tel (same age) rack up appearances, we still have the cautionary tale (Scarlett) of what could happen in the team.

The difference with the club now is, if players push for a move, it seems we let them go. Honestly we should mark this season, because I'm not sure how many of Vuskovic, Lankshear, Devine, Spence, etc. will actually push on to something we regret (time will tell)

 

[Bishop]

He isn’t better than Solanke
But Solanke has major fitness issues so is kinda irrelevant
If we were okaying £45m I’d suggest Vlahovic would be better value as some of that fee would be his signing on

I think he's better than Solanke. Far more of a goal threat, wants to score and can do something Solanke is incapable of doing; getting the ball out of his feet beating his man and getting a shot away. He's also significantly faster than Solanke and is a reasonable dribbler.

Not the special forward many are hoping for but I believe he's an improvement on what we have already even if not a massive upgrade.

I could see the sense in buying him now and maybe going back in for Kroupi or similar next summer and having Balogun and 1 other as our striker options.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Not anti Balogun, just do not understand while we let Lankshear go when I consider his ceiling.

Because he is quite a long way from being ready for top half PL football at the moment and the only way he will become ready is by playing at a lower level. If he does really well and we want him back in the future then we have matching rights and also 20% off anything over about £10m.

 

[Finney Is Back]

I saw him play a lot last year intentionally
And imo if a top manager can’t find a way to get a goal scorer in his team … it’s the manager who may be the issue

I've watched quite a lot of Lankshear over the last 3 years. He is still a long way from being a PL footballer. His movement and link up play still need a hell of a lot of work before he would be ready even for a bottom half PL side. He is quite powerful and is a good finisher but would get very few chances in the PL with the level of defending.

If he carries on developing his game as he has over the last 3 years (and his progression has been quite linear in these three years IMO) then he might be ready to play at a decent level in the Premier League in a couple of years time. If that does happen (50/50 chance I'd say) then we can probably just buy him back (and do so at a discount).

Anyone thinking he would've been an answer for us this season is seriously misguided I'd say. He is nowhere near the level of Richi, Solanke or Tel at present and would mostly look anonymous at PL level right now IMO.

Surely you don't think anything other than the fact that De Zerbi has sold him because him and the coaching staff know that he still has a lot of developing to do and he's not going to be able to do that developing in our first team?

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

So the current assessment is we have drastically improved in CM, added depth in defence (yet to be seen if JPVH is an upgrade on Romero) and added experience. Beyond that its now looking like ALOT of work needed now, especially with selling of what would have been required depth.

Interesting to see how the rest of this window goes

 

[robp135]

Because we want sales it seems and no one wants to buy our expensive players
Madness to sell Lankshear and that’s a hill I’ll die on

Have to hope he will not hold it against us if we wanted to use the buy back.

 

[robp135]

So the current assessment is we have drastically improved in CM, added depth in defence (yet to be seen if JPVH is an upgrade on Romero) and added experience. Beyond that its now looking like ALOT of work needed now, especially with selling of what would have been required depth.

Interesting to see how the rest of this window goes

If we were playing in a cup final tomorrow I would want Romero over JPVH without a doubt.

Over a 9 month season with 40+ games is where it’s an upgrade.

 

[Finney Is Back]

If we were playing in a cup final tomorrow I would want Romero over JPVH without a doubt.

Over a 9 month season with 40+ games is where it’s an upgrade.

Indeed. It is never good to have players that don't want to be there. Elite football is a game of small margins and you need everyone pulling in the same direction. Muani last season was an example. I bet he does really well at Juventus because he wants to be there and he'll be operating at his best.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

I've watched quite a lot of Lankshear over the last 3 years. He is still a long way from being a PL footballer. His movement and link up play still need a hell of a lot of work before he would be ready even for a bottom half PL side. He is quite powerful and is a good finisher but would get very few chances in the PL with the level of defending.

If he carries on developing his game as he has over the last 3 years (and his progression has been quite linear in these three years IMO) then he might be ready to play at a decent level in the Premier League in a couple of years time. If that does happen (50/50 chance I'd say) then we can probably just buy him back (and do so at a discount).

Anyone thinking he would've been an answer for us this season is seriously misguided I'd say. He is nowhere near the level of Richi, Solanke or Tel at present and would mostly look anonymous at PL level right now IMO.

Surely you don't think anything other than the fact that De Zerbi has sold him because him and the coaching staff know that he still has a lot of developing to do and he's not going to be able to do that developing in our first team?

Could not agree more. He has made great progress since joining but still has a lot of work to do.
At present he's not a "team player", I don't mean greedy just doesn't get involved in build ups.
I'm positive he'll score goals.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Have to hope he will not hold it against us if we wanted to use the buy back.

Well the fee will be high
But then the development may be worth it

 

[Bedfordspurs]

If we were playing in a cup final tomorrow I would want Romero over JPVH without a doubt.

Over a 9 month season with 40+ games is where it’s an upgrade.

I would too
Because I’m not convinced that JPVH is a great defender. He is a very good footballer
But Romero has the tools that others just don’t have
Shame he is a nutter made of cheese

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I've watched quite a lot of Lankshear over the last 3 years. He is still a long way from being a PL footballer. His movement and link up play still need a hell of a lot of work before he would be ready even for a bottom half PL side. He is quite powerful and is a good finisher but would get very few chances in the PL with the level of defending.

If he carries on developing his game as he has over the last 3 years (and his progression has been quite linear in these three years IMO) then he might be ready to play at a decent level in the Premier League in a couple of years time. If that does happen (50/50 chance I'd say) then we can probably just buy him back (and do so at a discount).

Anyone thinking he would've been an answer for us this season is seriously misguided I'd say. He is nowhere near the level of Richi, Solanke or Tel at present and would mostly look anonymous at PL level right now IMO.

Surely you don't think anything other than the fact that De Zerbi has sold him because him and the coaching staff know that he still has a lot of developing to do and he's not going to be able to do that developing in our first team?

You know what he said previously he would be the perfect 3rd choice and one who IMO with a good coach would develop at pace
The fact we don’t have a first choice and how sold him is scary for me
The fact that people (not you) are validating it by the potential fee is madness
I suspect we sold him because we had an offer and were desperate for sales because no one, so far has brought a senior player who we would sell
That’s a reflection on the senior players for sale and the team selling them imo
I’ve watched him play live 3 times I think and on TV I think around 16/17 games
He literally has everything you would want from a striker imo other than pace. Pace didn’t hurt Kane and the stylistic similarities are there for me as is the career development trajectory and coaching
But what’s done is done
The worry is we still haven’t done the needed front end business but we have time
For what it’s worth I rate tel and think there is a striker there too…. But he will need time and patience
I actually like Richy and Solanke but their fitness issues are more than well known
I don’t think we need a world class striker, we need a side that attacks with purpose (Frank killed that) and with a plan. The chance creation increase alone will have a massive impact I think

 

[Muttley]

You know what he said previously he would be the perfect 3rd choice and one who IMO with a good coach would develop at pace
The fact we don’t have a first choice and how sold him is scary for me
The fact that people (not you) are validating it by the potential fee is madness
I suspect we sold him because we had an offer and were desperate for sales because no one, so far has brought a senior player who we would sell
That’s a reflection on the senior players for sale and the team selling them imo
I’ve watched him play live 3 times I think and on TV I think around 16/17 games
He literally has everything you would want from a striker imo other than pace. Pace didn’t hurt Kane and the stylistic similarities are there for me as is the career development trajectory and coaching
But what’s done is done
The worry is we still haven’t done the needed front end business but we have time
For what it’s worth I rate tel and think there is a striker there too…. But he will need time and patience
I actually like Richy and Solanke but their fitness issues are more than well known
I don’t think we need a world class striker, we need a side that attacks with purpose (Frank killed that) and with a plan. The chance creation increase alone will have a massive impact I think

We've needed a manager who can operate at the top end of the PL for a few years. That will hopefully become our biggest differentiator this season.