Thomas Frank - Head Coach

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

That’s the problem, we’re not even that under this manager.

Exactly, I think this has to be the game where the damn breaks on the ‘it’s the players’ argument. Because whatever you think of the quality of the squad, things should not be this bad.

And for me I’m not saying Frank is a bad coach, I think the decision to hire him was weird and I think he’s walked into a weird situation and we put ourselves needlessly in a wild state of transition. But also questions have to be asked around hiring A someone so different from the previous manager and B someone whose methods hadn’t been proven at the level we aspire to be. It’s all completely mad, someone somewhere at the club completely lost their head in the summer if you ask me.

 

[DubSpur]

Exactly, I think this has to be the game where the damn breaks on the ‘it’s the players’ argument. Because whatever you think of the quality of the squad, things should not be this bad.

And for me I’m not saying Frank is a bad coach, I think the decision to hire him was weird and I think he’s walked into a weird situation and we put ourselves needlessly in a wild state of transition. But also questions have to be asked around hiring A someone so different from the previous manager and B someone whose methods hadn’t been proven at the level we aspire to be. It’s all completely mad, someone somewhere at the club completely lost their head in the summer if you ask me.

Have to wonder what the analytics were that they stated they used.

 

[Raziel]

As I said above, I expect us to be top 8 at a minimum. Absolute bare minimum. Would expect it under Ange, Frank, anyone. And under Ange, we were better than than up to the point of the City 4-0 last season (when we already had to play Dragusin and Davies at centre back).

I expect to be top 8 bare minimum barring exceptional circumstances. That’s all. You expect to be 14th because of the quality of the squad. Totally respect that, but a clear difference of opinion.

Wasted argument mate, the data is extremely clear

- Can't beat Wolves and West Ham at home
- Have just failed to win against two teams that had not won in 10+ games
- Worse home record than Leeds by 7 points
- 3 wins in 15

This isn't the squad, just looking at the tactics, the brick subs, the lack of movement, lack of intent.

If you saw any level of systems, strategy and players giving it all but just not being enough quality, that is one thing, this is just a manager way out of his depth.

 

[Bishop]

As I said above, I expect us to be top 8 at a minimum. Absolute bare minimum. Would expect it under Ange, Frank, anyone. And under Ange, we were better than than up to the point of the City 4-0 last season (when we already had to play Dragusin and Davies at centre back).

I expect to be top 8 bare minimum barring exceptional circumstances. That’s all. You expect to be 14th because of the quality of the squad. Totally respect that, but a clear difference of opinion.

I'd more so say I'd expect this squad to be top 10. With a poor coach 14th being very possible.

 

[Mikey10]

So, folks, who do we fancy for the rest of the season?

Out of the likely candidates, it’s hard to decide:

Stellini: Knows the club, probably didn’t get enough time in his previous stint, will have learned a lot from his time working with Conte, and is Italian, so he obviously must be great.

Mason: Okay, he’s been sacked by West Brom for not being good enough, but he knows the club, will have learned a lot from working with Conte, and he’s English, and they won the World Cup in 1966 - so what’s not to like?!

Sherwood: Alright, he’s been out of the game for a while, but he knows the club, occasionally talks in sentences on Sky Sports, apparently once met Conte in the tunnel at the new stadium, and he’s English (remember 1966, people!) - and he managed Ryan Mason for a short period!

Ange: It seems an unlikely return, but he did manage us to a cup win (while simultaneously overseeing a secret strategy to lose all of our league games -not even Pep worked it out, so bonus points for that!), he took over from Conte, he’s Australian (they are famous for boomerangs and they almost always make successful returns), and he’ll have gained a lot more experience from his five week stint at Forest.

Can we start a poll?

 

[billyiddo]

Where is the established, proven PL quality in our squad? The debate rages on regarding the ability we have or don't have (and tbf is by the by now, what with results how they are) but I'm left thinking that for the most part it's all hypothetical - we have a GK that most people seem to want to replace, a back four that is as close to established PL quality as our squad allows and then a midfield full of potential that has not proven anything in this league bar two senior players most are hoping leave imminently and then an attack that is either potential (not even top tier potential either despite the fees) or players from abroad that have done nothing in this league as of yet so can go either way.

Depending on which way you're camped re the manager you will take either the positive outlook or the negative, but either way surely we can all see there's not a lot of proven quality there and that any calls one way or the other are not based on any sort of tangible track record of performance at this level?

 

[elyid]

Can we start a poll?

Harry Redknapp & Stellini caretaker combo with some feel good “run around a bit” Joga Bonita football. Mason can turn up too, in fact we should start to hone a “caretaker club” consisting of fan favourites who can be brought in as a group each time we fire someone. Oldest of the group is officially the manager

Then either Alonso or wait for Poch.

Not really joking either, it would be much better than the current rubbish!!

 

[Mikey10]

Harry Redknapp & Stellini caretaker combo with some feel good “run around a bit” Joga Bonita football. Mason can turn up too, in fact we should start to hone a “caretaker club” consisting of fan favourites who can be brought in each time we fire someone.

Then either Alonso or wait for Poch.

Not really joking either, it would be much better than the current rubbish!!

I forgot Redknapp, of course!

Has still got it (on the days on which his medication is particularly effective), his son played for Liverpool (success breeds success!) and he has a lovely house on Sandanks - excellent venue for the end of season party, which will surely help to keep our brilliant squad happy. Was also alive when England won the World Cup in 1966.