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Thomas Frank - Head Coach

That season Everton weren't in Europe and went out of both cups early. So they didn't compete across all compeitions or compete for trophies. The next season they dropped off again in the league.

At the start of a season, new manager, just won a trophy, fans get carried away with expectations. It's human nature.
Reality is that we were 17th last season. Finishing in the top half and showing progress in the way we play is a good improvement.
I'd be worried if the board were expecting us to be suddenly competing for the CL places. Getting into Europe in any form would be very good progress.

I'm not defending Frank here. So far I don't see anything on the pitch, outside 45 mins yesterday, that gives me hope that he is the right man for the job. 14th, poor football, no real signs of any identity, no patterns in attack, no signs of progress, and sliding down the table at the moment. That's not acceptable.

Not sure if you saw my other post or not but I just think saying ‘reality is we finished 17th last season’ just doesn’t cut it. You have to mention the Europa win, because it’s inextricably linked. We were supposedly favourites and should have walked that competition due to the quality of our squad. So let’s take the trophy out of it. Let’s average out last season and say that a 17th league finish and a Europa trophy equals a 10th place league finish and no trophy. Is that fair?

In that instance, Frank is then taking over a team that routinely qualifies for Europe through the league but slipped the season before due to an unprecedented injury crisis. I wouldn’t think getting us from 10th into genuinely competing for the European spots again would be that hard, or that much progress. It’s just getting us back to by and large where we always have been.

And it’s not me saying I expect us to compete on all fronts, it’s the club! They made a change because they believed it would give them the best possible chance of competing on multiple fronts in the *coming season* and beyond. They were not expecting this to be a year of absolutely nothing but setting foundations.

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Apologies for what I think will be a long(ish) post. Ive been on the wine

Must start with a declaration - until today I haven't watched any football since our 2-2 at Newcstle. I'm done with wasting my time as I think VAR is not fit for purpose. Would my attitude be different if Spurs were dong well? Maybe, but then I've sat through some turgid times throughout the past 40 odd years and not felt this detached from the sport as a whole

That being said, I watched the second half today once I learned there was no VAR and I really hope we keep Frank for at least this season, if not the next 2-3, and give him time to build a team. I'm not basing that on our 2nd half display as I understand the 1st half was woeful but we have to give managers time. The caveat being if they lose the dressing room which I don't believe he has

Since Poch (who never actually won a trophy, lest we forget) we've tried managers who have won it all before and managers who are on their way up and no one has succeeded. The board obviously felt Frank was than right man a few months ago and it would be wrong and a big step backwards to sack him now

I get that fans are entitled to boo the team and that is their right but the ones who are lucky enough to go week in week out have a job to get behind the lads regardless and show that we support them whatever. I remember booing Chris Armstrong when he was going through a rough patch and now I wish I hadn't - he needed our support more than ever then. There's only one person who has ever been associated with Spurs, past or present, who it's obligatory to abuse and we all know who that is (clue: a judas clam)

I may have stepped away from football for the time being but I'll always be Spurs

Post of the thread mate well said. As for VAR i have said on here many times its brick, spoils the match going feeling and is there because of the money it has made for those idiots who brought it in.
 
So some places are claiming Enic want to sell and won't be investing heavily in January, this would co inside with Romero calling them liars. Make of it what you will.

Yep, the story is Levy was turning down offers, so they got rid of him to sell
 
Yep, the story is Levy was turning down offers, so they got rid of him to sell

The other rumour is that diminishing his influence and making him the bad guy also forces his price down. Loads of city talk about it apparently. Clubs 100% for sale, the kids don't want the burden, they want their inheritance. "We are here for success" is just goof PR for anyone looking to come in.
 
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Someone said in the match thread yesterday, “end of days”, I’m sure they meant Frank, but if we sell that might be it for the whole club.
 
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