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The youth players/on-loan thread 2014-2015
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JerusalemMan
Johnny Morrison
Technically, Barcelona aren't allowed to sign players till next year.
Though they found a way round it
Though they found a way round it
Yoof
Tony Parks
Marcus Edwards, youth player. He's staying from what I gather so I wouldn't read too much into him changing a twitter status, would be nice to get confirmation though. In other news, Carter-Vickers' USA played Veljkovic's Serbia today in the QF of the U20 World Cup, both played well, finished 0-0 but both missed their penalties, Serbia ended up going through.
JerusalemMan
Johnny Morrison
CCV put in a monumental performance, I understand. Was key to the USA keeping a clean sheet.
DublinSpur
Scott Parker
Everything I've read suggests he's been one of the stand-out players of the tournament.
Yoof
Tony Parks
That's more down to England rather than it being CCV's choice, they overlooked him and chose other players instead, the USA took advantage of this and now he seems set on repaying the faith they've shown in him.
Cochise
Steve Carr
Thanks man. I wasn't aware of the situation although I did read something a while back talking about the increasing number of youth players with dual nationality who are choosing to play for the country that wasn't England. Goddard was one of them and he explained that he just preferred Japan, but I think the article was trying to pinpoint how this disconnection came to be.
On CCV. I'd imagine someone at the FA will be trying to make contact. Doubt it will be long before he gets a senior call up from someone, if only as a way to bank him for the future.
Edit: Here's the article.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...uth-player-chose-represent-Japan-England.html
Interesting quote, "A lot of people in the youth system are not really admiring the England team and the English way of playing football".
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NaijaSpurs
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Yoof
Tony Parks
I think the key tweet there is this one:
It's entirely possible that he'd be starting for the USA by then but the chances of doing the same for England is practically nil, you'd think that would be a key facor in his decision(if he hasn't already made his mind-up). I do think Onomah and Edwards could be there if they develop as hoped, bit of a long shot but things move fast in football. We signed Lennon as a hot prospect at the age of 18 and one year later he was playing in a World Cup quarter final.
Tony Mowbray is meeting with Tottenham to see if he can lay the foundations to take a couple of the Premier League outfit’s up and coming stars on loan.
The Coventry City boss would love to get Grant Ward back on a season-long agreement after the midfielder impressed at the back end of last term but may face stiff competition for his services from Championship clubs.
However, Mowbray already has a good relationship with John McDermot, who looks after Spurs’ development squad and was pleased with the way Ward was looked after during his time at the Ricoh Arena, and hopes that will pave the way for further links between the two clubs who he feels share similar footballing philosophies.
“Premier League clubs have got huge Under-21 development squads and that’s why I am going to have a meeting with the people at Tottenham to see if I can build some sort of relationship with them and look to potentially blood one or two of their young players if we can and if it suits us,” said the manager.
“It’s a football club with a pedigree that demands it’s players play a certain way. They have to be able to handle the ball and play and not be embarrassed by the football, and I think that’s a good match with us because I like footballers like that as well.
“If we can do something, great.”
Mowbray insists it has to be a two-way street and not simply a case of the loaning club benefiting from their young players getting valuable match time to aid their development. They have to be good enough to make an impact and help the Sky Blues achieve their ambitions next season.
“John McDermot understands and they, as a club, understand that it’s got to benefit us as well as them by giving a couple of their young players game time,” he said.
For fans desperate for news on new signings and fearing he will rely heavily on loans this season, Mowbray said: “I can’t just sit here and wait to get players on loan. I think we have to try to sign some of our own players and then if, somewhere down the line, the loan players come and we feel they can get in front of the ones we sign then so be it, but we can’t try to build our team on the back of hope.
“Generally the better loan players go away with their squads on pre-season, go on tour and see how they fit in. What happens in pre-season is that managers don’t want to play their first team players for 90 minutes in the first two or three games. They want them to play 45 minutes so they take young players to supplement the second half of the games, which means they take at least 24 or 25 players on tour with them.
“Invariably they are young players and the ones we would be trying to sign on loan.
“It’s not frustration but it’s a case of these things take time and you keep talking to the clubs because the managers reach a stage where they say they are not going to play the kids because the first team players are ready to start playing 90 minutes.
“And then they might make the decision that whoever it is can go on loan now, but that might be four weeks into their pre-season so we might have to go on our own pre-season before we get any loan players in.”
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...-news/coventry-city-boss-tony-mowbray-9464734
The Coventry City boss would love to get Grant Ward back on a season-long agreement after the midfielder impressed at the back end of last term but may face stiff competition for his services from Championship clubs.
However, Mowbray already has a good relationship with John McDermot, who looks after Spurs’ development squad and was pleased with the way Ward was looked after during his time at the Ricoh Arena, and hopes that will pave the way for further links between the two clubs who he feels share similar footballing philosophies.
“Premier League clubs have got huge Under-21 development squads and that’s why I am going to have a meeting with the people at Tottenham to see if I can build some sort of relationship with them and look to potentially blood one or two of their young players if we can and if it suits us,” said the manager.
“It’s a football club with a pedigree that demands it’s players play a certain way. They have to be able to handle the ball and play and not be embarrassed by the football, and I think that’s a good match with us because I like footballers like that as well.
“If we can do something, great.”
Mowbray insists it has to be a two-way street and not simply a case of the loaning club benefiting from their young players getting valuable match time to aid their development. They have to be good enough to make an impact and help the Sky Blues achieve their ambitions next season.
“John McDermot understands and they, as a club, understand that it’s got to benefit us as well as them by giving a couple of their young players game time,” he said.
For fans desperate for news on new signings and fearing he will rely heavily on loans this season, Mowbray said: “I can’t just sit here and wait to get players on loan. I think we have to try to sign some of our own players and then if, somewhere down the line, the loan players come and we feel they can get in front of the ones we sign then so be it, but we can’t try to build our team on the back of hope.
“Generally the better loan players go away with their squads on pre-season, go on tour and see how they fit in. What happens in pre-season is that managers don’t want to play their first team players for 90 minutes in the first two or three games. They want them to play 45 minutes so they take young players to supplement the second half of the games, which means they take at least 24 or 25 players on tour with them.
“Invariably they are young players and the ones we would be trying to sign on loan.
“It’s not frustration but it’s a case of these things take time and you keep talking to the clubs because the managers reach a stage where they say they are not going to play the kids because the first team players are ready to start playing 90 minutes.
“And then they might make the decision that whoever it is can go on loan now, but that might be four weeks into their pre-season so we might have to go on our own pre-season before we get any loan players in.”
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...-news/coventry-city-boss-tony-mowbray-9464734
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Not sure I fully understood all that contorted logic but I do like where Mowbray is coming from. His Wiki article says he's a coach who likes to play an 'attractive brand of attacking one touch passing football, a reflection of his staunch footballing philosophy.'
Coventry are League 1 but with sufficient potential to not look out of place in the lower half of the PL, so they could be just the right first loan for some of our promising youngsters.
Coventry are League 1 but with sufficient potential to not look out of place in the lower half of the PL, so they could be just the right first loan for some of our promising youngsters.
What he says is that they won't take anyone on loan unless they benefit from it, he has to be good enough for their first XI. These players are naturally good enough to be in contention for a squad place with us and will be involved with us in pre season so our coaching staff can have a closer look and not have to play our best players for more than 45 minutes in the first friendlies. Coventry can't gamble on the availability of these players and have to look for permanent deals in the meantime, but if the right loan option becomes available he'll drop his latest signings to the bench.
milo
Jack L. Jones
Please can we all agree that it should be 2CV, it is far better
JerusalemMan
Johnny Morrison
Is it now?
DublinSpur
Scott Parker
Well done to U20 World Cup winner, Veljkovic! Serbia beat Brazil in the final (2-1 after extra time) in a match that included a vital goal-line clearance from the young Spurs player.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Congrats to Veljkovic and Serbia! Well done in deed...
Will be interesting to see what happens with Veljkovic this summer. He's stated before that he wants to be a part of our first team next season, at the very least I'm guessing he'll get a chance to prove himself during pre-season. A U20 WC win won't have hurt his confidence or chances of being involved next season at all.
Will be interesting to see what happens with Veljkovic this summer. He's stated before that he wants to be a part of our first team next season, at the very least I'm guessing he'll get a chance to prove himself during pre-season. A U20 WC win won't have hurt his confidence or chances of being involved next season at all.