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The Pitch and serious injuries

Nexus1967

Ilie Dumitrescu
So I have just been reading that Spurs and Real Madrid are looking at their pitches after a season blighted by multiple serious injuries. Apparently both stadiums have retractable pitches that are very similar and are looking at them as maybe the cause of so many injuries, especialy ACL. They are looking at whether there is a degree of "bounce" as there is no solid base underneath unlike other normal pitches. Now I don`t know how they are made but understand that almost all top level clubs across europe have a sort of hybrid grass surface that is made with grass and artificial threads held together with some kind of mesh. Has anyone on here got any experience of modern football ground keeping or is this story just clickbait.
I would be interested to know if there is any truth in the story.
 
Nobody ever launches an investigation without a fairly good idea of what they want the findings to be, and in this case the intent is presumably to have a weighty and reassuring report which exonerates the pitch from all blame, ready to present to prospective players and their agents by the time the WC is over and the transfer market hots up.
 
So I have just been reading that Spurs and Real Madrid are looking at their pitches after a season blighted by multiple serious injuries. Apparently both stadiums have retractable pitches that are very similar and are looking at them as maybe the cause of so many injuries, especialy ACL. They are looking at whether there is a degree of "bounce" as there is no solid base underneath unlike other normal pitches. Now I don`t know how they are made but understand that almost all top level clubs across europe have a sort of hybrid grass surface that is made with grass and artificial threads held together with some kind of mesh. Has anyone on here got any experience of modern football ground keeping or is this story just clickbait.
I would be interested to know if there is any truth in the story.
It's utterly ridiculous. The three sections the pitch is made of weigh 200 tons each, WITHOUT the 2 meters of gravel, soil and grass that are in them, and there are hundreds of support points. There's absolutely no fudging "bounce". Add to that, only one of our serious knee injuries happened on our pitch. Blaming the pitch for the injuries is absolutely ridiculous.
Going further into that, pretty much every player in Norway should be out with serious knee injuries, given that almost every pitch is artificial, which according to everyone (who don't play on it) is disastrous and causes injuries.
 
I only posted this as I had just read a couple of articles more or less the same story about us and Real Madrid. Considering we have been playing on it for 7 years now we all know its pretty much flimflam. But I was just interested to know if anyone on here knows what the make up of a modern football pitch is made of. Are they a grass/hybrid combination layed on a mesh to stop them tearing up and keep them nice and even. Any ground keepers around?
 
I only posted this as I had just read a couple of articles more or less the same story about us and Real Madrid. Considering we have been playing on it for 7 years now we all know its pretty much flimflam. But I was just interested to know if anyone on here knows what the make up of a modern football pitch is made of. Are they a grass/hybrid combination layed on a mesh to stop them tearing up and keep them nice and even. Any ground keepers around?
It was discussed in the injuries thread iirc

Each of the 3 trays weighs 3,000 tons iirc I.e. no bounce!
 
I only posted this as I had just read a couple of articles more or less the same story about us and Real Madrid. Considering we have been playing on it for 7 years now we all know its pretty much flimflam. But I was just interested to know if anyone on here knows what the make up of a modern football pitch is made of. Are they a grass/hybrid combination layed on a mesh to stop them tearing up and keep them nice and even. Any ground keepers around?

There is a youtube video going around on this theory, the real big difference between Spurs/Madrid pitch and standard pitches is depth (standard pitch is significantly deeper/more soil under grass). And yes, depth matters almost more than material in terms of absorption of shock, it's why new sneakers have these ridiculous padded soles, no amount of science compensates for the depth/thickness.

That said, it's been 7 years, and while it most likely is a contributing factor, my personal view
- The pitch probably doesn't help but unlikely to be main cause
- Injuries create their own vicious cycle (where I think Madrid and Spurs are), at a certain point too many injuries put pressure on the remaining players (and with European football and a squad unbalanced due to HG issues), which creates more injuries, more pressure and on we go.
- Multiple changes of manager, each with different training styles, each coming in with emphasis on fitness, each time players trying to impress probably puts strain on players
- Medical/Sports science team not working well with manager, for "run into the ground injuries" what happened to red zone data? did we not pick it up, did the manager ignore, also why the perceived large amount of re-injuries in recovery.

As with most things, not one thing is smoking gun, it's likely a combination of, if not all of, the above.
 
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