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Erik Thorstvedt
Hahaha abysmal
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K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Dimitar Berbatov
Day one of Brisbane test I'm having a pacemaker fitted, I'll have to check its alright for me to watch.
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Milenko Acimovic
Lilac Hill iis a small suburban ground in a park it's nothing like Perth stadium & doesn't have a drop in pitch.
prime Minister's Xl will be England bowling one day batting the next. Manuka oval is nothing like the GABA what a complete waste of time even the weather will be completely different.
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Milenko Acimovic
Good luck with it once it's in you'll be fine. when my mum had it the doc told her it would add 10 years to her life. Mind he could have been telling her that to make her feel better. She died at 86 as she would say she had a good innings. Hope you live a lot longer than that
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Dimitar Berbatov
Thanks, I'd settle for the Aussies unlucky number right now.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
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Milenko Acimovic
They are right can't dispute the stats but i really hope he gets a hundred in his first innings to shut them up.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Still averages almost 35 in Oz, it's mad he has never scored a 100 though
Would love him to score 600 runs plus in the series to shut the Simpletons up
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Milenko Acimovic
ABC report
www.abc.net.au
Injured skipper says Hazlewood is 'pretty confident' after Ashes scare
Josh Hazlewood has reportedly indicated his hamstring scare is not serious after Australia suffered a double injury concern just nine days out from the first Ashes Test.
www.abc.net.au
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
England captain Ben Stokes must "respect" the views of former players says ex-skipper Michael Vaughan, after Stokes described some of his critics as "has-beens".
Vaughan, former captain Graham Gooch and legendary all-rounder Lord Botham have been among those to question England's preparation for first Ashes Test next week.
Speaking on Wednesday morning, Stokes defended the decision to have a solitary warm-up match - an in-house game against England Lions - saying "we can't prepare how the has-beens maybe prepared".
Writing in the Telegraph,, external Vaughan said: "England have to accept that there will be scrutiny.
"Just because the 'has-beens' have a different view does not mean these are not valid comments. England should respect those views.
"They are coming from legends of the game who can't play any more because they are too old, but that doesn't mean they don't desperately want England to win.
"They are saying these things because they are concerned, and see the risk."
England's three-day warm-up against their development side begins on Thursday. The first Test against Australia starts eight days later on 21 November.
Stokes' side have been training in Perth this week and their approach is similar to their preparations for their five previous overseas tours under Stokes and coach Brendon McCullum. England have won the first Test of those series on each occasion.
But it differs from many previous Ashes tours, when England played several warm-up games. Botham said it "borders on arrogance", Vaughan called it a "huge risk" and Gooch labelled it "glorified practice".
Stokes responded by saying "cricket has changed so much" and pointed to the busier calendar, plus the fact the ongoing Australian domestic season would have impacted the quality of opponents, as reasons not to have an extended build-up.
"There are quite a few factors that go into why we can't prepare how the has-beens maybe prepared in the past," he said.
"We're very comfortable with how we prepare because we leave no stone unturned."
Former England assistant Paul Farbrace dismissed the idea Stokes was being "disrespectful" and said his words were a message to his squad to block out the outside noise.
"All Ben Stokes is saying, forget the noise, forget everything that is going on," Farbrace told BBC Sport.
"It doesn't matter if it is an English great or an Australian great, let them have their say, it doesn't really matter.
"Ben isn't being disrespectful.
"He is very respectful of all of the greats that have gone before. Don't worry about the way Ben has said it."
Farbrace was part of the management for the 2017-18 tour when England played four warm-up matches against local sides and lost the Test series 4-0.
He said the hierarchy reflected afterwards that they would have been better served with a build-up similar to the one scheduled this year.
He added: "Don't be kidded by thinking this England team aren't prepared.
"I get the former players' thoughts but let's get behind our team.
"Let's do something that is typically un-English and support our team rather than giving them a kicking before the series has even started."
Former captain David Gower, a team-mate of Botham and Gooch, was part of England's victorious 1986-87 tour - their only other win in Australia since the 1970s.
"I hate to say it, somewhere in between is the right solution," Gower told BBC Radio 5 Live.
"I wouldn't advocate you play three whole games. Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't.
"These days they don't worry about it in the same way, back themselves somehow to say 'tomorrow is a Test match put the on-switch up and all of the burners on'.
"The whole thing is about peaking at that moment.
"Inevitably it will work for some and not others. As long as seven or eight out of the 11 are somewhere near a peak you have got a chance."
Vaughan, former captain Graham Gooch and legendary all-rounder Lord Botham have been among those to question England's preparation for first Ashes Test next week.
Speaking on Wednesday morning, Stokes defended the decision to have a solitary warm-up match - an in-house game against England Lions - saying "we can't prepare how the has-beens maybe prepared".
Writing in the Telegraph,, external Vaughan said: "England have to accept that there will be scrutiny.
"Just because the 'has-beens' have a different view does not mean these are not valid comments. England should respect those views.
"They are coming from legends of the game who can't play any more because they are too old, but that doesn't mean they don't desperately want England to win.
"They are saying these things because they are concerned, and see the risk."
England's three-day warm-up against their development side begins on Thursday. The first Test against Australia starts eight days later on 21 November.
Stokes' side have been training in Perth this week and their approach is similar to their preparations for their five previous overseas tours under Stokes and coach Brendon McCullum. England have won the first Test of those series on each occasion.
But it differs from many previous Ashes tours, when England played several warm-up games. Botham said it "borders on arrogance", Vaughan called it a "huge risk" and Gooch labelled it "glorified practice".
Stokes responded by saying "cricket has changed so much" and pointed to the busier calendar, plus the fact the ongoing Australian domestic season would have impacted the quality of opponents, as reasons not to have an extended build-up.
"There are quite a few factors that go into why we can't prepare how the has-beens maybe prepared in the past," he said.
"We're very comfortable with how we prepare because we leave no stone unturned."
'Ben isn't being disrespectful'
England are seeking their first victory on Australian soil since 2010-11, with many believing Stokes' side have the best chance of success since that trip.Former England assistant Paul Farbrace dismissed the idea Stokes was being "disrespectful" and said his words were a message to his squad to block out the outside noise.
"All Ben Stokes is saying, forget the noise, forget everything that is going on," Farbrace told BBC Sport.
"It doesn't matter if it is an English great or an Australian great, let them have their say, it doesn't really matter.
"Ben isn't being disrespectful.
"He is very respectful of all of the greats that have gone before. Don't worry about the way Ben has said it."
Farbrace was part of the management for the 2017-18 tour when England played four warm-up matches against local sides and lost the Test series 4-0.
He said the hierarchy reflected afterwards that they would have been better served with a build-up similar to the one scheduled this year.
He added: "Don't be kidded by thinking this England team aren't prepared.
"I get the former players' thoughts but let's get behind our team.
"Let's do something that is typically un-English and support our team rather than giving them a kicking before the series has even started."
Former captain David Gower, a team-mate of Botham and Gooch, was part of England's victorious 1986-87 tour - their only other win in Australia since the 1970s.
"I hate to say it, somewhere in between is the right solution," Gower told BBC Radio 5 Live.
"I wouldn't advocate you play three whole games. Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't.
"These days they don't worry about it in the same way, back themselves somehow to say 'tomorrow is a Test match put the on-switch up and all of the burners on'.
"The whole thing is about peaking at that moment.
"Inevitably it will work for some and not others. As long as seven or eight out of the 11 are somewhere near a peak you have got a chance."
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Vaughan is one of the biggest pricks around
I was at the Cheltenham festival 6 months after we won that incredible Ashes series
After day one I was lucky to be with a few locals who got us into a very exclusive club/restaurant
On the table behind us was Vaughan and a few famous jockeys etc
I turned around and said to him, sorry for bothering you but can I just say as a massive cricket fanm thanks for one of the best summers of sport I have ever witnessed
His response, was fudge off you clam, nobody cares what you think, you're nothing
Barry Geraghty who was with him took umbrage to this, called him out for being a total prick and then spent the next 30 mins with me and my pals giving us all the inside track on his rides for the rest of the festival and he brought us a very expensive bottle of red wine too
Two of his rides the next day won and we won almost £15k between 6 of us
I was at the Cheltenham festival 6 months after we won that incredible Ashes series
After day one I was lucky to be with a few locals who got us into a very exclusive club/restaurant
On the table behind us was Vaughan and a few famous jockeys etc
I turned around and said to him, sorry for bothering you but can I just say as a massive cricket fanm thanks for one of the best summers of sport I have ever witnessed
His response, was fudge off you clam, nobody cares what you think, you're nothing
Barry Geraghty who was with him took umbrage to this, called him out for being a total prick and then spent the next 30 mins with me and my pals giving us all the inside track on his rides for the rest of the festival and he brought us a very expensive bottle of red wine too
Two of his rides the next day won and we won almost £15k between 6 of us
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Dimitar Berbatov
Bit like Doug Walters performances in England, he averaged about 48 in all tests but was in mid 20's in England. At the time he was their leading batsman.
Grays_1890
Erik Thorstvedt
I know Hoggy fairly well as I did some work with him and he said Vaughan was the best skipper in the world, but the worst human
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Wood potentially has done his hamstring on day one of the warm up game, 8 overs he bowled !!
Amazing
Amazing
Wow, he actually said those words to you?
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Yep