Daisuk
Barry Daines
Not that it matters, but Waddle didnt win a league title, did he?
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The Case for the Attacking play
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Not that it matters, but Waddle didnt win a league title, did he?
glasgowspur
Paul Stewart
Frank would have hoddle passing back 10 yards fro Porro to cross it and sell waddle.
SteveAWOL
Tommy Harmer
He helped Marseille win 3 consecutive league titles plus reach the final of European Cup in 1991
Hopefully these kids of Joe Lewis will prove that they're not all bluster and finally turn us into a club which challenges for those highest honours again, so that next time we have a generational talent like Kane come up through the ranks he can stay here and win it all!
kb 1984
Anthony Gardner
I was at that game they kicked lumps out of us as Wimbledon always did. Those two were world class could do with a world class midfielder/ attacker right know. Over to you Enic
I started to come back at you with nah mate, then realised that actually you may be right.
2005–06
- Jermain Defoe
- Robbie Keane
- Mido
- Frédéric Kanouté
- Dimitar Berbatov
- Jermain Defoe
- Robbie Keane
- Mido
- Dimitar Berbatov
- Robbie Keane
- Darren Bent
- Jermain Defoe
- Darren Bent
- Roman Pavlyuchenko
- Jermain Defoe
- Robbie Keane
- Fraizer Campbell
- Jermain Defoe
- Robbie Keane
- Peter Crouch
- Roman Pavlyuchenko
- Eidur Gudjohnsen (loan)
- Gareth Bale
- Jermain Defoe
- Peter Crouch
- Roman Pavlyuchenko
- Robbie Keane
- Gareth Bale
- Emmanuel Adebayor
- Jermain Defoe
- Roman Pavlyuchenko
- Louis Saha
- Gareth Bale
- Emmanuel Adebayor
- Jermain Defoe
- Harry Kane
- Clint Dempsey
- Roberto Soldado
- Emmanuel Adebayor
- Harry Kane
- Jermain Defoe
- Jonathan Obika
Centre‑forwards:
- Harry Kane
- Roberto Soldado
- Emmanuel Adebayor
- Erik Lamela (often central too)
- Andros Townsend
- Aaron Lennon
- Nacer Chadli
- Erik Lamela
Centre‑forwards:
- Harry Kane
- Roberto Soldado
- Heung‑min Son
- Erik Lamela
- Nacer Chadli
- Clinton N'Jie
Centre‑forwards:
- Harry Kane
- Vincent Janssen
- Heung‑min Son
- Erik Lamela
- Georges‑Kevin Nkoudou
- Clinton N'Jie
Centre‑forwards:
- Harry Kane
- Fernando Llorente
- Heung‑min Son
- Erik Lamela
- Lucas Moura
- Georges‑Kevin Nkoudou
Centre‑forwards:
- Harry Kane
- Fernando Llorente
- Heung‑min Son
- Lucas Moura
- Erik Lamela
Centre‑forwards:
- Harry Kane
- Troy Parrott
- Heung‑min Son
- Lucas Moura
- Erik Lamela
Centre‑forwards:
- Harry Kane
- Carlos Vinícius
- Heung‑min Son
- Gareth Bale
- Steven Bergwijn
- Lucas Moura
- Erik Lamela
Centre‑forwards:
- Harry Kane
- Dane Scarlett
- Heung‑min Son
- Steven Bergwijn
- Lucas Moura
- Bryan Gil
Centre‑forwards:
- Harry Kane
- Richarlison
- Heung‑min Son
- Dejan Kulusevski
- Lucas Moura
- Bryan Gil
Centre‑forwards:
- Richarlison
- Heung‑min Son
- Brennan Johnson
- Dejan Kulusevski
- Manor Solomon
Centre‑forwards:
- Dominic Solanke
- Richarlison
- Heung‑min Son
- Timo Werner
- Brennan Johnson
- Dejan Kulusevski
I am still unsure as to whether I dislike our forward options now more than 2008, as I remember just how shocking the Berbatov/Fraizer Campbell deal was - Berba was our heartbeat and Campbell was bang average - so for me that line-up, injuries aside would struggle against Kolo Muani, Richie, Kudus, Solanke, Kulusevski, Odobert, Tel, Maddison and Xavi for me.
When you write the list out in full, our team this season, with a coach who promoted attacking football would be very capable. Sadly we got rid of him last season, and if we're honest he would have likely had us 10th with 50 scored and 50 conceded by now so we're not much better off.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
When I first went to watch football with my dad I just wanted to see us score and win not much has changed. I've always believed that's what the games about, scoring more than your opponents.
Blanchflower had it spot on.
"The great fallacy is the game is first and last about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory. It's about doing things with style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom"
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
I've seen many great attacking players over the years but since the PL started only 3 have made it as league winning managers:
Dalglish
Ancelotti
Mancini
All with only 1 title
The game is managed by defenders and midfielders few who have been outstanding players and they mostly bring a defensive style to the game.
The prime object of football is like all games, to be played and enjoyed. Watching is a poor substitute to playing and is for entertainment. Most football today is about efficiency, implementing a plan successfully and to my mind is as entertaining as The Great British Bake Off.
Dalglish
Ancelotti
Mancini
All with only 1 title
The game is managed by defenders and midfielders few who have been outstanding players and they mostly bring a defensive style to the game.
The prime object of football is like all games, to be played and enjoyed. Watching is a poor substitute to playing and is for entertainment. Most football today is about efficiency, implementing a plan successfully and to my mind is as entertaining as The Great British Bake Off.
interesting take on it - I would say that some of the greatest managers of the last 20 years have not really been top players so wonder about whether their playing position has any bearing on things - Ferguson, Wenger, Klopp and Guardiola are more or less the top four and only one of them had a top level career worth talking about.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
I think most of the great players have natural talent and instinct, don't think so much about the game.
Dave Mackay was the only great player at Spurs that had a good managerial career IMO.
When I played the after match tactical talk was mostly done by the defenders or midfielders, forwards only talked about their goals or how rubbish we were at defending.
ricky2tricky4city
Barry Daines
I was at that game....the delights of Plough Lane.
It was a rough old slog....but those two geniuses got us past that banana skin and onto the semi final.
Think the full game is on YouTube
mudshark
Justin Edinburgh
I remember reading (I think it was in the book The Numbers Game) that there's a statistical argument that goals you don't concede are worth more points-wise than goals you score. Whether that's really true or not, I couldn't really say.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
To me there in lay the problem stats are more important than goals, winning 1-0 with 2 shots at goal is worth the same as winning 4-3 with lots of goal attempts.
Football in English PL is getting like field hockey with high percentage of goals coming from corners.
Watching football should be enjoyed not endured.
metalgear
Chris Jones
modric, sheringham, carrick, berbatov, boateng, walker, paulinho, eriksen ..... but who's counting
Muttley
Milija Aleksic
For me our best season was 16/17. 86 goals in the league and big contributions from Kane, Dele, Son and Eriksen. I'm not sure how you accommodate Dele's 50 goals in your lists above but that false number 9 was relevant. Way more relevant than a 1 in 6 scorer like Moura to be fair.
What's interesting is that at Brentford you could definitely feel how Frank was setting up his side to optimise his forwards. At Spurs you can't yet, even though Frank's brand has been about building successful forward lines.
Baleforce
Terry Naylor
I'm guessing the author was @Baleforce....
No, but it’s one of my inspirations.
That’s a brilliant book and everyone should read.
No plan survives first contact with the enemy....
Or in this scrutiny lol.
I think the point of my post was to highlight the paucity of our forward options in previous seasons. We do have a lack of end product at the moment, but there have definitely been some periods where our front line has been weaker, just as it's been stronger too. The presence of Kane instantly makes the team stronger than now because he was worth 20-25 goals a season, a number that we can only achieve right now with 2 or even three players.