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Squad

Kulu isn't anywhere close, Maddison is on grass training, I suspect by mid February we would know if it's likely.

It’s sad about Kulusevski. Missed him all season. Expected he would be out injured until January-February but if he still isn’t close then that’s definitely a big concern.
 
How the actual feck have our glorious Transfer Committee managed to waste so much money on so much dross!

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If we go down I reckon we'd have a firesale, but not sure just how many we'd actually be able to ship out. I made a little list.

Vicario - wants to go home
Kinsky - could get a chance?
Austin - could get a chance?
van de Ven - will want to leave
Romero - leaves
Dragusin - do we want him?
Danso - keep, hopefully
Davies - he's probably out
Udogie - will want to leave
Spence - could stay?
Souza - staying
Porro - would want to leave
Bentancur - sell, wants to leave
Palinha - end of loan
Bissouma - sell, long overdue
Bergvall - hopefully keep
Gray - hopefully keep
Gallagher - hopefully keep, but would want PL?
Sarr - could be kept?
Simons - would want out
Kulusevski - would want out
Maddison - possibly keep?
Odobert - possibly keep?
Kudus - would want PL-level football
Solanke - would want PL, but possibly keep?
Tel - possibly keep?
Richy - could very possibly be kept
Kolo - end of loan

So, in my book, we're realistically maybe keeping Kinsky, Danso, Spence, Souza, Bergvall, Gray, Sarr, Maddison, Odobert, Tel and Richy - but who knows, all of those may want out as well.
 
If we go down I reckon we'd have a firesale, but not sure just how many we'd actually be able to ship out. I made a little list.

Vicario - wants to go home
Kinsky - could get a chance?
Austin - could get a chance?
van de Ven - will want to leave
Romero - leaves
Dragusin - do we want him?
Danso - keep, hopefully
Davies - he's probably out
Udogie - will want to leave
Spence - could stay?
Souza - staying
Porro - would want to leave
Bentancur - sell, wants to leave
Palinha - end of loan
Bissouma - sell, long overdue
Bergvall - hopefully keep
Gray - hopefully keep
Gallagher - hopefully keep, but would want PL?
Sarr - could be kept?
Simons - would want out
Kulusevski - would want out
Maddison - possibly keep?
Odobert - possibly keep?
Kudus - would want PL-level football
Solanke - would want PL, but possibly keep?
Tel - possibly keep?
Richy - could very possibly be kept
Kolo - end of loan

So, in my book, we're realistically maybe keeping Kinsky, Danso, Spence, Souza, Bergvall, Gray, Sarr, Maddison, Odobert, Tel and Richy - but who knows, all of those may want out as well.

Can’t imagine a few of them fancying plying their trade away at Hull, Blackburn and Swansea. 😀
 
If we go down I reckon we'd have a firesale, but not sure just how many we'd actually be able to ship out. I made a little list.

Vicario - wants to go home
Kinsky - could get a chance?
Austin - could get a chance?
van de Ven - will want to leave
Romero - leaves
Dragusin - do we want him?
Danso - keep, hopefully
Davies - he's probably out
Udogie - will want to leave
Spence - could stay?
Souza - staying
Porro - would want to leave
Bentancur - sell, wants to leave
Palinha - end of loan
Bissouma - sell, long overdue
Bergvall - hopefully keep
Gray - hopefully keep
Gallagher - hopefully keep, but would want PL?
Sarr - could be kept?
Simons - would want out
Kulusevski - would want out
Maddison - possibly keep?
Odobert - possibly keep?
Kudus - would want PL-level football
Solanke - would want PL, but possibly keep?
Tel - possibly keep?
Richy - could very possibly be kept
Kolo - end of loan

So, in my book, we're realistically maybe keeping Kinsky, Danso, Spence, Souza, Bergvall, Gray, Sarr, Maddison, Odobert, Tel and Richy - but who knows, all of those may want out as well.

I think Gray and Bergvall would have e a fair bit of interest. Certainly wouldn’t need to be playing Championship footy.
 
I think Gray and Bergvall would have e a fair bit of interest. Certainly wouldn’t need to be playing Championship footy.

Yeah, but that could be said about all of them. I don’t think we’ll sell them all. We will see, hopefully we can just sell a bunch of them without getting relegated.
 
If we go down I reckon we'd have a firesale, but not sure just how many we'd actually be able to ship out. I made a little list.

Vicario - wants to go home
Kinsky - could get a chance?
Austin - could get a chance?
van de Ven - will want to leave
Romero - leaves
Dragusin - do we want him?
Danso - keep, hopefully
Davies - he's probably out
Udogie - will want to leave
Spence - could stay?
Souza - staying
Porro - would want to leave
Bentancur - sell, wants to leave
Palinha - end of loan
Bissouma - sell, long overdue
Bergvall - hopefully keep
Gray - hopefully keep
Gallagher - hopefully keep, but would want PL?
Sarr - could be kept?
Simons - would want out
Kulusevski - would want out
Maddison - possibly keep?
Odobert - possibly keep?
Kudus - would want PL-level football
Solanke - would want PL, but possibly keep?
Tel - possibly keep?
Richy - could very possibly be kept
Kolo - end of loan

So, in my book, we're realistically maybe keeping Kinsky, Danso, Spence, Souza, Bergvall, Gray, Sarr, Maddison, Odobert, Tel and Richy - but who knows, all of those may want out as well.
Want to leave??? F**** me! They threw us in this mess... they should be forced to get us out of it. Even if it means visits to the likes of Hull!!

I guess we got the answer whether we were crap because of Frank or because of the squad... where is the "top 8" squad everyone said was being shackled by the supposedly incompetent manager and would emerge like the phoenix once he was kicked out???
 
Want to leave??? F**** me! They threw us in this mess... they should be forced to get us out of it. Even if it means visits to the likes of Hull!!

I guess we got the answer whether we were crap because of Frank or because of the squad... where is the "top 8" squad everyone said was being shackled by the supposedly incompetent manager and would emerge like the phoenix once he was kicked out???

Yes, but a lot of these players aren't bad by themselves, I really believe this is a team issue. It's a silly analogy, but there have been certain individuals at places I've worked at that have simply stunk the place out - always under performing because they think they're too good or important for whatever task, coming in late, not respecting others, making quarrels, always brick talking other people, never does the boring maintenance work, wants to rebel against the boss for no good reason, fudges the guy/girl that is married etc etc. Narcissistic troublemakers. And when they are gone, it's like a collective cloud of brick has just lifted, and the entire team spirit is boosted enormously.

I'm not saying that's necessarily the case here, who the hell knows, but it very well could be.
 
If we go down I reckon we'd have a firesale, but not sure just how many we'd actually be able to ship out. I made a little list.

Vicario - wants to go home
Kinsky - could get a chance?
Austin - could get a chance?
van de Ven - will want to leave
Romero - leaves
Dragusin - do we want him?
Danso - keep, hopefully
Davies - he's probably out
Udogie - will want to leave
Spence - could stay?
Souza - staying
Porro - would want to leave
Bentancur - sell, wants to leave
Palinha - end of loan
Bissouma - sell, long overdue
Bergvall - hopefully keep
Gray - hopefully keep
Gallagher - hopefully keep, but would want PL?
Sarr - could be kept?
Simons - would want out
Kulusevski - would want out
Maddison - possibly keep?
Odobert - possibly keep?
Kudus - would want PL-level football
Solanke - would want PL, but possibly keep?
Tel - possibly keep?
Richy - could very possibly be kept
Kolo - end of loan

So, in my book, we're realistically maybe keeping Kinsky, Danso, Spence, Souza, Bergvall, Gray, Sarr, Maddison, Odobert, Tel and Richy - but who knows, all of those may want out as well.
Agree with most of that, except I dont see Solanke leaving. Who would want him in the PL unless we sell him for peanuts?
He is a classic championship striker. Also Kukusevski is either finished or he stays at least one season to prove hes still a good player and has overcome the injury.
 
Yes, but a lot of these players aren't bad by themselves, I really believe this is a team issue. It's a silly analogy, but there have been certain individuals at places I've worked at that have simply stunk the place out - always under performing because they think they're too good or important for whatever task, coming in late, not respecting others, making quarrels, always brick talking other people, never does the boring maintenance work, wants to rebel against the boss for no good reason, fudges the guy/girl that is married etc etc. Narcissistic troublemakers. And when they are gone, it's like a collective cloud of brick has just lifted, and the entire team spirit is boosted enormously.

I'm not saying that's necessarily the case here, who the hell knows, but it very well could be.
They just aren't that good and are also a mish mash and an unbalanced group. You can get away with one of those things but not both.

If you lack quality but are well balanced, a system can plan around your weaknesses and maximize your strengths. If you have no balance but extreme quality you can ride the wave of that quality. We've seen that here quite a few times, 2012 under AVB when Bale became WC. We had no real balance but Bale almost made up for it. Spurs post Poch has been an ever degrading entity but Kane and Son kept us propped up and the cracks filled for years.

Now we just largely have mediocre players who don't even fit well together and who might like you suggest think they are better than than they are but the problem isn't them thinking that. The problem is the lack of quality they can actually transmit onto the pitch and the lack of balance this squad has. There are just so many really obvious players profile holes that have just never been addressed.
 
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