Vega
Neil Sullivan
Yes they win and lose more when he plays. Make of that what you will.
I still think its advantage West Ham in the race for the EL with him out.
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Serious relegation fears
- Thread starter NaijaSpurs
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Yes they win and lose more when he plays. Make of that what you will.
I still think its advantage West Ham in the race for the EL with him out.
As I said, those stats go so far back they include two only good seasons (26 and 27 league goals). I'm sure the cutoff point is completely coincidental and his five previous seasons where he managed 10-15 goals would not have made any difference. They're still only marginally better with him.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
it's either gonna be + or -, one is good, one is bad
the time to move a player on is when their influence goes the other way or you have someone who can have a greater positive influence
also, the stats have (conveniently?) dropped the period of time when he was at his most consistent, although if you look at his goals tally in isolation he's never really dropped off
I think he gets a lot of unfair stick, he's been an excellent player for Manchester United
Baleforce
Ron Henry
they score more, concede less and win more games, every player you can say that for is an asset to my mind
I wouldn't go as far as to say advantage west ham but he's clearly a player LvG would rather have available
His record at Man Utd: 11, 16, 14, 12, 12, 26, 11, 27, 12, 17, 12 and 7 this season. Those stats conveniently start with his 26 goal season. I would have liked to see the numbers for the last three.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
I was looking at all competition goals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Rooney#Club
it would make sense if they had someone sat waiting on the bench who looked a greater threat, but I don't see that from Rashford or Keane myself, who knows, maybe LvG is waiting to unleash them
Still, his importance to them 5 or 3 years ago has little to do with the player we see today.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
absolutely, it's stats for the bigger picture
this isn't vintage Rooney, but there isn't someone knocking on the door to replace him in the starting 11 at the minute, they'll move Martial there but the man that comes in is not going to match Rooney's influence imo
Why didn't they just get a backup striker? Damn that Levy, no wait.
Vega
Neil Sullivan
Didnt they pay £58m for one and then play him on the wing?
He's a left sided forward, not a striker. Don't worry, there's always Fellaini.
greatwhitenorf
Vedran Corluka
It's a measure of how Spurs fans are thinking these days when news of Rooney's injury - and the likelihood that this starts pouring the cement for Spurs top four finish - is given somewhat blasé reactions.
Fair to say we'd be more interested in little knocks that might affect Kante, Huth, Vardy and Mahrez because we're looking up, not down.
Fair to say we'd be more interested in little knocks that might affect Kante, Huth, Vardy and Mahrez because we're looking up, not down.
greatwhitenorf
Vedran Corluka
A knee injury doesn't inhibit his vocal cords.
He can threaten to batter them with his crutches if they don't get a result.
NaijaSpurs
Rafael Van Der Vaart
13 February 2016, Merson knew:
The north London side travel to the Etihad hoping to keep hold of second spot behind leaders Leicester. Merson though reckons Mauricio Pochettino’s side don’t have the pace in their side to give City real problems. “If I’m being honest, I don’t see Spurs winning this game,” Merson told SkySports. “They haven’t got pace on the counter like Leicester have so I’m unsure how they’ll hurt Emirates Marketing Project. “Spurs have conceded 10 goals in their last two trips to the Etihad but this Tottenham team is a completely different animal under Mauricio Pochettino, this is one of the best sides they’ve had in years. “Emirates Marketing Project will no doubt cause Spurs problems too but I don’t see either side running away with a game which is relatively well matched.”
The north London side travel to the Etihad hoping to keep hold of second spot behind leaders Leicester. Merson though reckons Mauricio Pochettino’s side don’t have the pace in their side to give City real problems. “If I’m being honest, I don’t see Spurs winning this game,” Merson told SkySports. “They haven’t got pace on the counter like Leicester have so I’m unsure how they’ll hurt Emirates Marketing Project. “Spurs have conceded 10 goals in their last two trips to the Etihad but this Tottenham team is a completely different animal under Mauricio Pochettino, this is one of the best sides they’ve had in years. “Emirates Marketing Project will no doubt cause Spurs problems too but I don’t see either side running away with a game which is relatively well matched.”
braineclipse
Willie Hall
But who has replaced him in the past when he's been out? Berbatov? Tevez? An in form van Persie? They've had top players and arguably a better balanced side with him out of the team in the past.
Who will replace him now? I think it might have more of an impact at this time than earlier. Though could obviously be wrong.
Martial is more than capable.....
braineclipse
Willie Hall
But also seemingly their best left sided player by some margin. Moving him centrally could leave them weaker in two positions...
Compared to the kind of competition for places they had with Berbatov, Tevez and Rooney, or the option to go two up front instead of Rooney and RvP as a partnership, seems massive. So I'm not sure "historical" comparisons how they've done with and without Rooney are particularly informative for the current United team.