Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Aguero leads the line well and he isn't tall... But bloody strong which is the important characteristic
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Sandro Ramirez
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Yoof
Tony Parks
Adam Armstrong is one to look out for in the coming years, not sure I'd call him "tricky" as such but he's diminutive, very sharp, quick and can certainly finish. Has a hat-trick so far today which puts him on 16 in 22 for Coventry(on loan from Saudi Sportswashing Machine) this season and is still only 18.
@Greg has been raving about him, but he has looked woefully out of his depth whenever I've seen him for Saudi Sportswashing Machine. Might have a bit of pace, but not much else.
Just 18 though. Think back to when Harry Kane was just 18.
Kane was never a short arse though.
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
No, but he did look like Andy Carroll in rewind when running and with balance that got his first touch stuck under his feet.
His balance and body shape have improved both of those things massively
Yoof
Tony Parks
I think that's doing him a massive disservice. A 17/18 year old playing up top on his own for a crap Saudi Sportswashing Machine side pumping long balls to him was always going to struggle, put current-day Aguero in that kind of setup and he probably wouldn't look too hot either. He obviously does have a bit more than just pace considering he's five clear of any other player in League 1 for goals and he's shown he has an array of finishes. He's comfortable off either foot, technically decent, razor sharp in and around the box, he's short but he has that stocky build which gives him a chance at least of holding off players. He's not Kane, he won't do Kane-like things as he's a completely different player but he's not just some headless chicken pace merchant. I'm not saying we should sign him and Saudi Sportswashing Machine wouldn't entertain any offers at this stage anyway but he's one who in a few years may come onto our radar if he carries on progressing.
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
Spot on, BE, couldn't agree more.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
New article profiling Ramirez here: https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/ones-watch-sandro-ramirez-premier-120754211.html
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Seems like a situation that might put pressure on Barca as the transfer window is closing. Might make them accept not having the buy back clause they reportedly want...
I for one wouldn't be that happy about us buying a player that will have a decent/low buy back clause for Barca to just pick him up again if he fulfills his potential. Would rather our top notch player development ability was focused on players we actually have as our own.
Why? Its a commercial agreement between two parties regarding buying an asset
because it allows low / no risk for the selling club and no incentive to play and improve players for the bigger club. Allows greater concentration of players to the rich clubs who have their cake and eat it by "selling" with a one way bet.
Although football is a business it is also still a sport and it is up to the governing bodies to try and keep the integrity of the sport. You cant have "powerful" clubs getting an unfair advantage. Even if you boil it down to commercial agreement and assets there needs to be regulations in the market to ensure that there is a fair market place (monopolies commission etc).
do you think its a good idea to have third party ownership, agents owning players, can you tie players up to one way contracts for their entire career?
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alekaras
The ITK of IDK
I think if the buying club doesn't like it, they can just say no. It also depends on when the buy-back clause can be activated. If it's within 2 years, then obviously I wouldn't go for it as a buying club, since that's how long it may take for a player to fully integrate into the team and PL style of play. On the other hand, if it's 5 years, I may be willing to take the chance if I think that it will net me 3-4 years of having an excellent player in my team. After that, I can always negotiate the buy-back clause with the selling team. On the plus side, players sold with a buy-back clause tend to be cheaper, so it can strengthen your squad for a period of time with less investment than buying the player outright.
Just like the loaning rules allows clubs to stockpile players and means a concentration of players to the rich clubs.
You say that the player may be cheaper when in fact it would be likely that he wouldn't have been offered a new contract or bought if they couldn't loan out or no risk sale
You say that the player may be cheaper when in fact it would be likely that he wouldn't have been offered a new contract or bought if they couldn't loan out or no risk sale
NaijaSpurs
Rafael Van Der Vaart
The striker is yet to feature for the Catalan club in 2016 and is not in Luis Enrique's plans, but the Blaugrana are keen to sell the forward in a permanent deal to raise funds
Barcelona have turned down a loan move from Betis for striker Sandro Ramirez, Goalunderstands, and hope to sell the 20-year-old before the end of the January transfer window.
Sandro has yet to feature for Barca in 2016 and has fallen down the pecking order at the Catalan club since summer signings Arda Turan and Aleix Vidal became eligible to play earlier this month.
The striker has known since October that he is not part of Luis Enrique's plans and Barca are now helping the forward find a suitable destination in the current window.
Barcelona have turned down a loan move from Betis for striker Sandro Ramirez, Goalunderstands, and hope to sell the 20-year-old before the end of the January transfer window.
Sandro has yet to feature for Barca in 2016 and has fallen down the pecking order at the Catalan club since summer signings Arda Turan and Aleix Vidal became eligible to play earlier this month.
The striker has known since October that he is not part of Luis Enrique's plans and Barca are now helping the forward find a suitable destination in the current window.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Barca refuse loan approach from Betis: http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...bid-for-sandro-to-clear-path-for?ICID=HP_HN_1
metalgear
Nayim
just that the asset here is a human, and while i see the claim to the development of a player, i do not see the need to have overhanging contracts beyond what the player can forsee.
i recognize that the buy back clause is an option that is adjusted for financially in a contract. however much cleaner to receive a bunch of cash that the club can use to buy that player back? why would the club insist on the player's control after selling him, if only to deprive the player freedom to play for another club?