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Roberto De Zerbi *OFFICIAL*

Mental fatigue in this case. Poch had us going deep in Europe and Cups playing high intensity football and he rarely used more than 15 outfield players in 10+ games. But because we were winning it was not an issue.

I think it is all of it.
Agreed re: Poch (albeit he wanted to refresh after two seasons) but I think covid and that weird World Cup (plus Nations League) changed things even more with regards to load on players in all senses. I wonder if this is why football has currently become so 'set-piece alpha' where the big gains come from smashing people at dead ball situations?
 
I do worry too that we have some sort of negative chemistry between the fans and the players, and that might be contributing to the bad finishing and the silly errors at the back. Eg I don’t think the goals we conceded against Villa were system errors (which is a plus in the column for RDZ’s coaching) but it doesn’t take away from the fact that we simply need to score, and ultimately win some games to build a sense of momentum and confidence, among players and fans.

The more positive outlook is, if RDZ often takes time to really start getting results playing his way, it would probably look like what we are seeing right now. We’d ideally have one more win in there somewhere so far, and with better finishing we would have had a couple. So hopefully we’ll get there.

The other thing is, taking him at his word about the physical condition of the players, it’s in some part players needing to actually get fit (Solanke, Maddison, Kudus, Porro) and in some part players like Savio and Marmoush needing to get comfortable that they are the key players here, not the supporting act (his comments around them being ‘the protagonists) and that’s a different kind of fitness and expectation because they’re consistently starting, not coming into a settled side against a tired opposition.

Where I’m concerned, or where players shouldn’t be struggling with fitness, is Tel, Tonali, Fernandes, VDV, JPVH, Gray. But maybe this all just adds to the sense of disconnection. Most of our attack is finding its way or unfit, most of our midfield and defence is settling in and building new connections. So maybe this is just the tough period we have to get through. It’s the consequence of levelling up the squad and trying to do it all in one window. We just don’t have a settled side that is fit and firing, for one reason or another.

I do think we’ll ultimately be ok. This may be a transitional season rather than a memorable one, but I think we’ll get there. Arteta had an 8th place finish. Hopefully we’ll put it all together in time to have a great FA Cup run this season. I do like that our owners showed a lot of patience with Frank - I think he was the wrong guy but I think to go all in on RDZ and his signings, to then look for someone else if the tough run extends…I’m not sure who else we get that does better with this specific group of players. I think we just need to let it all work itself through. But it’s gonna be tough, and there’s probably going to be some nervous times still until we get there.

If there is anyone here who is relying on Maddison, I'd say they are misplacing their thoughts. Bless him I hope I'm wrong but don't think I am. Solanke? I cannot wrap my head around it. Kudus? He's fit now it seems? Pedro? So much accumulated football over the last few seasons so agreed...Savio and Marmoush? If they are in that mindset, then I have to say 150 million or whatever for the pair of them is outrageously over-priced. When a club chases you like that, when a manager praises you like that, I expect you to walk in like Billius Big gonadus and throw down. Just my view, albeit I accept the synergy angle is a factor for sure.

Tel has been fit and available, so not an issue there with fitness (albeit perhaps you meant in a greater sense). Tonali? I have no idea, and agree it is a big concern. Fernandes I also don't really understand unless West Ham were playing him hurt last season at times? VdV and JP, lots of football and World Cup too. Archie? i feel sorry for him as he is fit and not playing in his favored position.

I think your 8th place finish feels about right with optimism that we will start finding more goals. My fear is that 2026 life won't allow the patience needed to see it start coming together.
 
For those looking for some light at end of tunnel .. post on reddit basically claims RDZ start at Brighton was exactly same (2 points in 5 league games). Next match was a win and kick on from there

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For those looking for some light at end of tunnel .. post on reddit basically claims RDZ start at Brighton was exactly same (2 points in 5 league games). Next match was a win and kick on from there

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I saw this earlier…did a double take because I was struggling to understand how a team could be 8th one season with 2 points and 20th in another with 2 points also. Is that actually right? Was the league distribution just so different then?
 
I saw this earlier…did a double take because I was struggling to understand how a team could be 8th one season with 2 points and 20th in another with 2 points also. Is that actually right? Was the league distribution just so different then?

RDZ joined after Potter left for Chelsea. So it's likely it's the 2 point Brighton got under RDZ's tenure rather that 2 points from their season as a whole (which would include points gained under Potter)
 
If there is anyone here who is relying on Maddison, I'd say they are misplacing their thoughts. Bless him I hope I'm wrong but don't think I am. Solanke? I cannot wrap my head around it. Kudus? He's fit now it seems? Pedro? So much accumulated football over the last few seasons so agreed...Savio and Marmoush? If they are in that mindset, then I have to say 150 million or whatever for the pair of them is outrageously over-priced. When a club chases you like that, when a manager praises you like that, I expect you to walk in like Billius Big gonadus and throw down. Just my view, albeit I accept the synergy angle is a factor for sure.

Tel has been fit and available, so not an issue there with fitness (albeit perhaps you meant in a greater sense). Tonali? I have no idea, and agree it is a big concern. Fernandes I also don't really understand unless West Ham were playing him hurt last season at times? VdV and JP, lots of football and World Cup too. Archie? i feel sorry for him as he is fit and not playing in his favored position.

I think your 8th place finish feels about right with optimism that we will start finding more goals. My fear is that 2026 life won't allow the patience needed to see it start coming together.

Those were not my opinions on who I was relying on, rater just the general sense of disconnection in the squad as everyone gets up to speed. It’s that some players are unfit, some aren’t used to starting every week, and some are adjusting to a new club that is expected to play proactive rather than reactive football every week.

But this can’t go on. This group has to either ‘get fit’ (whatever that means) and figure it out pretty quickly. These players have too much quality, reputations that are too big and are on too high wages for it to continue. And I believe it will figure itself out.
 
ok calm down everyone
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Most of that means little wrt painting a picture of whether results are due to improve - although ironically the biggest indicator among that lot is our expected goals which is tracking at relegation form. Any side with lower than an xg of 40 (a little over 1 per game) has been relegated. We're currently at 1 per game. I would think that should improve as we get more used to the tactics and players settle more though.
 
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