Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[P.D.]

@P.D. ??

Not sure what happened, meant to say a total gimmick. Fuel prices are already available online, if they really want to help they could cut fuel duty, reduce energy prices and boost uptake of EVs alongside it.

 

[P.D.]

Could Burnham be anymore subtle about trying to rejoin the EU, wouldn't be surprised if he calls an election next year with that as his main policy.

Feels like he has no ideas at all, monster majority and almost 3 years to go. There's plenty they could be getting on with now but they don't seem to be doing anything.

 

[robp135]

Could Burnham be anymore subtle about trying to rejoin the EU, wouldn't be surprised if he calls an election next year with that as his main policy.

Feels like he has no ideas at all, monster majority and almost 3 years to go. There's plenty they could be getting on with now but they don't seem to be doing anything.

That’s really what he is going to run on?

 

[Mikey10]

Could Burnham be anymore subtle about trying to rejoin the EU, wouldn't be surprised if he calls an election next year with that as his main policy.

Feels like he has no ideas at all, monster majority and almost 3 years to go. There's plenty they could be getting on with now but they don't seem to be doing anything.

Agreed.

I mean, aside from presenting initial ideas for a National Care Service, a programme aimed at delivering much more affordable social housing, bringing water services back into public ownership, reducing VAT on electricity bills, capping bus fares at £2, reducing council tax with a land value tax, adjusting the pension triple lock, reindustrialising Britain, devolving power to the regions, bringing parity with vocational routes in the education system and seeking to bring an end to homelessness, he’s been completely silent.

Personally, I think he just sits in the No 10 flat playing Smiths and New Order records.

 

[Lost Mango]

Could Burnham be anymore subtle about trying to rejoin the EU, wouldn't be surprised if he calls an election next year with that as his main policy.

Feels like he has no ideas at all, monster majority and almost 3 years to go. There's plenty they could be getting on with now but they don't seem to be doing anything.

Parliament only restarted after their summer holidays at 2.30pm yesterday, bless them, but they had been doing stuff before the recess.

Summer is always quiet and then silly season with the conferences, but agree they could at least be floating more meaningful ideas than rerunning Brexit at the moment

 

[Rorschach]

Reversing Brexit is the best thing the UK could do. It is worth about 100 billion a year, according to Bloomberg. Burnham is setting the stage.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Reversing Brexit is the best thing the UK could do. It is worth about 100 billion a year, according to Bloomberg. Burnham is setting the stage.

In modern politics (well Trumps version), you just say what you're going to do, don't be shy about it. Perhaps thats not in line with the contents of the (Starmers) manifesto, and there'd be calls for an election to mandate such a move BUT be bold about it.

Besides it's a good time to get people thinking it's not such a bad idea. 1. The original direction/decision hasn't exactly proven successful 2.Smooth out trade with our biggest business partner, anything to help business 3.Geopolitically it looks like Europe needs to stick strongly together in the short to midterm, and if we have to draw a line in the sand with Trump, it'll be better with Europe looking united. (The opposite to what the dictators are plotting or want)

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

In modern politics (well Trumps version), you just say what you're going to do, don't be shy about it. Perhaps thats not in line with the contents of the (Starmers) manifesto, and there'd be calls for an election to mandate such a move BUT be bold about it.

Besides it's a good time to get people thinking it's not such a bad idea. 1. The original direction/decision hasn't exactly proven successful 2.Smooth out trade with our biggest business partner, anything to help business 3.Geopolitically it looks like Europe needs to stick strongly together in the short to midterm, and if we have to draw a line in the sand with Trump, it'll be better with Europe looking united. (The opposite to what the dictators are plotting or want)

Was there actual need for a referendum to leave the EU in the first place? I can't remember the terms or could the government have said "look we are leaving for the better of the UK" in the same way now, in theory they could say the same about re-joining?

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Just to add......
It's a prime time to rejoin/renegotiate as before it was very much us (UK) and them (EU), when thats now shifted completely with the geopolitical chaos, we are very much on the same side.

Well,with the party currently in power we are....and that's where the risk is. Push for this and you could be forced into an election (or second referendum, either for real or by proxy), and we are back to the country being split in half, and Nige ranting on and on about it again.
Good communication can win out here though.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Was there actual need for a referendum to leave the EU in the first place? I can't remember the terms or could the government have said "look we are leaving for the better of the UK" in the same way now, in theory they could say the same about re-joining?

It was Cameron promising one just to be elected for another term iirc