robp135
Anthony Gardner
Again, not what I said.
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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Again, not what I said.
MartyFunkhouser
George Hunt
Not directly, but when you produce excuses for it and post graphs in response about illegals when talking about working migrants it becomes pretty clear whats being alluded to.
My OP over the weekend where this has originated was literally me saying that I felt sorry for anyone here working hard for a better life who is facing the kinds of abuse thats clearly rising in the UK. What an outrageous view
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thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
Here's some history behind why Somalia is one of the very poorest countries in the world...same old story really...it appears Somalians are considered largely unimportant to most people...tragic on a humanitarian basis. Before you jump to an assumption, let me be clear I am speaking about the general global attitude towards the country.
https://jacobin.com/2022/11/somalia-cold-war-war-on-terror-us-intervention-destabilization
robp135
Anthony Gardner
We both want the same thing. I beleive part of what makes that achievable is if you crack down on the bad eggs that abuse the system.
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
There will be many who do not remember (or know) the 70s and 80s when this sort of thing was sadly commonplace. For those of us who DO remember it, let's just say that we're sadly seeing the same conditions in society.
robp135
Anthony Gardner
And it is avoidable.
MartyFunkhouser
George Hunt
I went down abit of a mini rabbit hole and seemingly they appear a pretty important workforce in some US states, apparently around Healthcare jobs etc.
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
That requires specifity with the egg monitoring as opposed to discdring entire pallets because a couple have cracked shells or smell funny.
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
Personal responsibility is the first step. Don't be a fool who fools for rhetoric; that's a great way to avoid further trouble...
MartyFunkhouser
George Hunt
Yeh, like I have said before, my grandparents were in the cross hairs back then as Jews along with the Irish, West Indians and Indian/Sikh community. And all that seems to have happened is the cross hairs have moved and we are now just demonizing different people now.
I get there are issues here and illegal immigration muds the waters, but in my example, if you cant distinguish between an illegal and. Dr who has studied 8 years for their career then maybe you are just as much as an issue in society as anyone you complain about.
Saving the planet one step at a time. Obviously green as a colour has other meanings in other cultures
Gazza
Chris Perry
I think it was you who in the first instance that was owing “advice” trying to be a guardian, No?
You shared your thoughts, as did I.
No problem here pal.
On a side note, you ok pal? You seem very on edge of late. That’s genuine.
parj
Nicola Berti
Exactly this. As a person of Indian origin, if I wanted to bring family here, I could easily help them stay somewhere. But when they say they want to come here, I tell them the truth about life here and they realise opportunities lie elsewhere.
However, a refugee is trying to go somewhere safe.
I do agree with tax payers money not being given out as freebies. I do think to be given benefits, you have to have paid tax at some point. That will then stop the immigrants and professional mums out of high school refusing to work but kids at 16. Before anyone gets on their high horse and calls that offensive, my mum was a single mum at 20 and worked. That was a time she could have got a house and benefits, and lived it up. There are plenty of cleaning jobs out there that nobody wants - and they quite flexible.
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MartyFunkhouser
George Hunt
Bingo
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
No advice intended.
I was calling out what aggravated me about your post.
I am marvelous thank you for asking. Not that I believe it is genuine to be honest: smacks to me of a snide inference that some mental health issues/life stress is causing me to step 'out of my lane' and make some 'comments'. The truth is you said some things I found particularly wan-ky and I said so. It really is that simple.
The passive agressive attitude is genuinely unnecessary. Coupled with your inability to deal with facts or understand basic political theory, you are genuinely the most uninformed poster on here. To then carry on like some non agitator.....
I'll say it again. Touch grass.
Finney Is Back
Jimmy Cantrell
I would say austerity is being careful with your spending. Spending only as much (or less) than you earn. It certainly isn’t spending considerably more than you earn and taking the tax burden to the highest percentage since WW2
We've explained this with Covid. Brexit. Aging population. This spending doesn't mean we didn't have austerity. We literally had austerity. They called it austerity. And poor people struggled through austerity.
What should we call the thing I call austerity?
parj
Nicola Berti
Love this. The right wing complain about immigrants on benefits then use it against working immigrants.
Here is where I can get onboard with the right wing agenda.... Ban all people, including UK nationals unless they have contributed tax for a minimum of 3 years, or have a skill.
Being a baby factory or mucking about in school should not mean you get benefits. And if we call all people from different regions criminals and rapists, then ban anyone in the UK with a criminal record from benefits.
If we are going to tax women for not having kids, tax every man refusing to pay the child maintenance.
And the one that will make the right standout as the true champions of honesty and the country, ban all politicians from lying on their manifest to get elected. And ban all second jobs for MPs and ministers.
BTW the use of another referendum is bat brick crazy. The whole EU thing with the current climate is not what the country wants. I was pro remain. It's done now. Why the idiots in govt think it's a plan is nuts. You've spent 2 years flirting with Brexit mindset and now have decided you want to gain back the middle classes lol. Who is advising Starmer ffs.