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Our signings since the Champions League final

Mulletperm

Jermaine Jenas
Thought it'd be interesting to list the players we brought in since the CL final, and score them out of 10. Out of these, who would you say were of the class and ability that would have seen us push on?

2020/21 Season

  • Pierre-Emile Højbjerg (Southampton)
  • Matt Doherty (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
  • Joe Hart (Free transfer)
  • Sergio Reguilón (Real Madrid)
  • Joe Rodon (Swansea City)
  • Steven Bergwijn (PSV Eindhoven – January 2020)
  • Giovani Lo Celso (Real Betis – loan made permanent January 2020)
  • Maksim Paskotši (Flora Tallinn)
  • Marcel Lavinier (Chelsea)
  • Tobi Omole (Arsenal)

2021/22 Season

  • Bryan Gil (Sevilla)
  • Emerson Royal (Barcelona)
  • Pape Matar Sarr (FC Metz – joined, loaned back)
  • Dejan Kulusevski (Juventus – loan, January 2022)
  • Rodrigo Bentancur (Juventus – January 2022)

2022/23 Season

  • Yves Bissouma (Brighton & Hove Albion)
  • Ivan Perišić (Free transfer – Inter Milan)
  • Djed Spence (Middlesbrough)
  • Destiny Udogie (Udinese – joined, loaned back)
  • Fraser Forster (Free transfer – Southampton)
  • Richarlison (Everton)
  • Pedro Porro (Sporting CP – loan January 2023, later made permanent)

2023/24 Season

  • Guglielmo Vicario (Empoli)
  • James Maddison (Leicester City)
  • Manor Solomon (Free transfer – Shakhtar Donetsk)
  • Micky van de Ven (VfL Wolfsburg)
  • Brennan Johnson (Nottingham Forest)
  • Ashley Phillips (Blackburn Rovers)
  • Alejo Véliz (Rosario Central)
  • Radu Drăgușin (Genoa – January 2024)
  • Timo Werner (RB Leipzig – loan January 2024)

2024/25 Season

  • Archie Gray (Leeds United)
  • Lucas Bergvall (Djurgården)
  • Dominic Solanke (AFC Bournemouth)
  • Yang Min-hyeok (Gangwon FC)
  • Antonín Kinský (Slavia Prague – January 2025)

2025/26 Season

Summer 2025
  • Kevin Danso (RC Lens – loan made permanent)
  • Mathys Tel (Bayern Munich – loan made permanent)
  • Mohammed Kudus (West Ham United)
  • Xavi Simons (RB Leipzig)
January / Winter 2026
  • Conor Gallagher (Atlético Madrid)
  • Souza (Santos FC)
 
Lots of potential, lots of deadwood and a few 6-8s. Kulu (before his injury), Bentancour (before his injury), Udogie (when he's not injured), Perisic (before his injury), Maddison (before his injuries), VDV and probably Solanke (before his injury). Porro too was good for us when we were on the front foot (a long time ago, before his injury).

Sarr, Gray, Bergvall, Danso, Xavi and to a lesser degree Kudus, I think have potential to be really good for us. Seen too little of Gallagher, but there's quality there too, IMO.

A lot of the other players have qualities, but were/are too inconsistent: Doherty, Lo Celso, Royal, Bissouma, Richarlison, Spence and Vicario.
 
The shocking thing is none of them get into Pochettinos starting XI. Well it’s not shocking but you know what I mean. The shock becomes numbing after a while.
 
Thought it'd be interesting to list the players we brought in since the CL final, and score them out of 10. Out of these, who would you say were of the class and ability that would have seen us push on?

2020/21 Season

  • Pierre-Emile Højbjerg (Southampton)
  • Matt Doherty (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
  • Joe Hart (Free transfer)
  • Sergio Reguilón (Real Madrid)
  • Joe Rodon (Swansea City)
  • Steven Bergwijn (PSV Eindhoven – January 2020)
  • Giovani Lo Celso (Real Betis – loan made permanent January 2020)
  • Maksim Paskotši (Flora Tallinn)
  • Marcel Lavinier (Chelsea)
  • Tobi Omole (Arsenal)

2021/22 Season

  • Bryan Gil (Sevilla)
  • Emerson Royal (Barcelona)
  • Pape Matar Sarr (FC Metz – joined, loaned back)
  • Dejan Kulusevski (Juventus – loan, January 2022)
  • Rodrigo Bentancur (Juventus – January 2022)

2022/23 Season

  • Yves Bissouma (Brighton & Hove Albion)
  • Ivan Perišić (Free transfer – Inter Milan)
  • Djed Spence (Middlesbrough)
  • Destiny Udogie (Udinese – joined, loaned back)
  • Fraser Forster (Free transfer – Southampton)
  • Richarlison (Everton)
  • Pedro Porro (Sporting CP – loan January 2023, later made permanent)

2023/24 Season

  • Guglielmo Vicario (Empoli)
  • James Maddison (Leicester City)
  • Manor Solomon (Free transfer – Shakhtar Donetsk)
  • Micky van de Ven (VfL Wolfsburg)
  • Brennan Johnson (Nottingham Forest)
  • Ashley Phillips (Blackburn Rovers)
  • Alejo Véliz (Rosario Central)
  • Radu Drăgușin (Genoa – January 2024)
  • Timo Werner (RB Leipzig – loan January 2024)

2024/25 Season

  • Archie Gray (Leeds United)
  • Lucas Bergvall (Djurgården)
  • Dominic Solanke (AFC Bournemouth)
  • Yang Min-hyeok (Gangwon FC)
  • Antonín Kinský (Slavia Prague – January 2025)

2025/26 Season

Summer 2025
  • Kevin Danso (RC Lens – loan made permanent)
  • Mathys Tel (Bayern Munich – loan made permanent)
  • Mohammed Kudus (West Ham United)
  • Xavi Simons (RB Leipzig)
January / Winter 2026
  • Conor Gallagher (Atlético Madrid)
  • Souza (Santos FC)

A sea of mediocrity with the odd island with potential.

Are we just going to completely ignore Ndombele and Ryan Sessengnon?

Yes please.
 
The shocking thing is none of them get into Pochettinos starting XI. Well it’s not shocking but you know what I mean. The shock becomes numbing after a while.

7 years and a billion in transfer fees later and we haven't bought a single player that's an improvement on that XI
 
Are we just going to completely ignore Ndombele and Ryan Sessengnon?

Both signed permanently in the 19/20 season.

Tbf this list of transfers should go back to the first of the 3 windows without a signing given that is when the rot set in.
 
The shocking thing is none of them get into Pochettinos starting XI. Well it’s not shocking but you know what I mean. The shock becomes numbing after a while.
Not a lot of players in world football would have really got into a prime Poch side, this is what makes it hard to believe that they didn’t win anything.
 
Not a lot of players in world football would have really got into a prime Poch side, this is what makes it hard to believe that they didn’t win anything.
I agree with that, but no real succession planning or any player from that list that could even challenge that team or even fit in.
 
The shocking thing is none of them get into Pochettinos starting XI. Well it’s not shocking but you know what I mean. The shock becomes numbing after a while.
I hear this said quite a bit as if it's a recruitment problem. For me, primarily, it isn't. You can't replace the likes of Verts, Toby, Walker, Dembele, Eriksen, Son and Kane on the money/wages we are willing to spend. Our recruitment and development was insanely good for a period where we got some of those lads but it's not sustainable.

The issue is, and always has been, the money we are willing to invest and the losses we are willing to take (because we won't always get it right). Don't get me wrong, our recruitment has been brick for the most part but these guys are operating under constraints.
 
Not a lot of players in world football would have really got into a prime Poch side, this is what makes it hard to believe that they didn’t win anything.

Not that hard, you need a squad not just an XI - we competed on multiple fronts most of those seasons which meant come the business end we were at a disadvantage when facing up against the big clubs who invested not only in a first XI but a deep squad filled with quality.
 
Not a lot of players in world football would have really got into a prime Poch side, this is what makes it hard to believe that they didn’t win anything.
Great team, tiny squad.

Top 4 was the target from the owners. Poch didn’t have the luxury of being able to rest players to concentrate on winning a Cup.

I think if he had that time again at Spurs he would say screw the direction from the chairman and weaken some of the PL teams we put out around the time of the semis and finals and delivered a trophy or two.
 
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