SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Royal and Davies showing their best skill is their defensive ability. Skipp can play that midfielder and defender role I think. Lacks Udoggies strength and pace but as an understudy I think he works.
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tommysvr
Vedran Corluka
Not saying Skipp or PEH are the answer, but neither was Porro back in August. It's amazing how well he's adapted to the role. No reason Ange can't get the same tune out of someone else we doubted.
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
No doubt, but it's getting increasingly harder to identify these hidden gems nowadays. Other clubs will be aware of them too and will promise them starting spots. Unless we pay them Chelsea or City money, which is not the way we operate, they'll choose to go where they're guaranteed to start.
don't underestimate the pulling power of a manager who plays fun football and who promotes youth. Chelsea might pay a lot for a long time, but you then face playing on loan on in the doldrums for years to come.
AjaxDeSuperYids
Drama queen
I still have hope that Spence and Sess could flourish as back ups to Porro and Udogie.
No reason why they cant both learn the role.
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
Was gonna post that
Do you take the option of a club that’s a mess or one that maybe can offer you better coaching and stability
JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
Strong work from the social media admin, though perhaps the Photoshop could have used a few seconds more attention.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
That never happened with Lamela (his world record for highest yellows to reds ratio). If you know exactly where the line is a play to it, the line shouldn't move
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I sometimes can be guilty of lingering faith in players that don't deliver, but I wouldn't expect either of those to ever play for us again.
I think Sess maybe goes back to Germany in January (loan to perm) and Spence gets a permanent to the championship in the summer
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
I think they both have the atributes
Sessegnon needs self confidence
Spence needs coaching
Both have the technical skills
Would be great to see
I think angeball with the ability to swap out players on 60 minutes to make positive subs would be massive
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
I cant see Ange discarding Sess without at least taking a look at him (he already saw Spence in pre-season). It could be that he doesn’t impress at all but I think he’ll at least be given a chance.
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
The pre season was a mess though
Games cancelled and random mid week games
I don’t think he will judge anyone on that
Daisuk
Dimitar Berbatov
Sessegnon just seems to be way too injury prone to get anywhere with us. I quite liked the look of Spence, so still have some hope he might come good for us. Would think he'd be able to fit into the way Ange plays with the backs. He's at Leeds not getting many games isn't he?
Mad to think we started the season like we did when that happened - I'd very quickly forgotten that!
Ange makes judgements on players beyond the pitch - he's looking for mental strength and moral fibre - hence why Ndombele isn't around. Spence is such an odd one, someone somewhere in the scouting team really went over the top to get him and then he's never been seen again, despite the player having serious attributes. Must be a mental thing I guess.
Sessegnon needs to have a reset - completely block out the Mourinho and Conte eras and embrace the new way. Or he's toast, lets be honest.
tommysvr
Vedran Corluka
Spence was out from the start though - only got 18 mins v Barcelona. Was training with the group that all left (Rodon, Tanguy etc.) Ange obviously spotted something he didn’t fancy.
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
And if he did.. I think he may well be wrong
But that’s my opinion
Bishop
John Lacy
That is a fair point I would argue though that we are comparing Porro who started his career as RW and then moved to RWB and now eventually an inverted RB which isn't a millions miles away from the same thinking of a RWB to someone like Skipp who has come through as an orthodox CM. Skipp and Hojberg haven't especially shown the qualities that the inverted FB need whereas Porro already had all of that, he was just seemingly lacking defensively. Ang has worked on his positioning and timing and everything has fallen into space, I think Skipp and Hojberg are lacking more than just positional awareness.
I'll happily be wrong but the other names mentioned like Spence and Sess seem more likely imo to be decent to good understudies.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Ange makes a big deal about talking to players before we sign them, to make sure they have the right mentality. I believe this has been questioned with Spence before?
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Agreed!
I think it was more Royal was ahead of him and no point stopping Spence from playing.
Now Ange appreciates Royals is a decent CB maybe there is more room. As things stand Royal is probably the more rounded player than Spence. But Spence has more attacking potential…
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
Really hard to judge how Spence may play considering he has had NO games for us