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***OMT Tottenham Hotspur v Burnlio, Sat Jan 24th, 3pm***

thfcsteff

thfcsteff

Ralph Coates
Let's add that 'o' to their name and pretend this is another match in the Champions League!!!

The David Fishwick Stand, complete with it's rusty nuts and creaky seats, will accommodate our glorious traveling supporters as they hope to see that Tuesday was no one-off.
Who bloody knows who is actually healthy, but based on the news as it stands right now, here's my team.

Vicario

Romero
Danso
VdV

Porro
Odobert
Palhinha
Gallagher
Spence

Muani
Tel


He cannot possibly play Simons, Destiny and Dom will need a big rest (maybe 10 off the bench), Archie could do with a rest too, albeit if Palhinha isn't fit then in he goes...bench of

Kinsky, Sarr, Gray, Udogie, Scarlett, Williams-Barnett, Byfield, Olusessi, Rowswell

Let's go there and force them back from the get-go. With Muani and Tel not having the same hold-up abilities as Dom, and our creativity essentially coming only from Porro, Odobert and Romero as a long-passer, we'll need to squeeze the play and not allow things to get too stretched.

They might have Snoop and Charlie, but we have THE KING BADGER...an optimistic 2-1 to Tottenham!
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I think i would go

Vicario

Spence Danso VDV Udogie

Bissouma Gallagher

Odobert Xavi Tel

Solanke...

That would give Gray, Romero and Porro a rest before the big game next Wednesday...

Get Muani on for Solanke at 60 mins regardless of the score....

Other subs to be made according to the state of the game, who deserves to be taken off and who is on the bench......

COYS
 
Prioritization will be interesting

- Lose this and we could be 16th and 7 points off relegation battle with an extremely difficult February fixture list to come
- Win against Frankfurt next week and you go into round of 16 and avoid 2 games (with our injuries)

Xavi would be concern
Bergvall out
Porro has to get a rest at some point?
We need to manage Udogie & Solanke
Assuming Tel & Gallagher back?
 
Raziel said:
Prioritization will be interesting

- Lose this and we could be 16th and 7 points off relegation battle with an extremely difficult February fixture list to come
- Win against Frankfurt next week and you go into round of 16 and avoid 2 games (with our injuries)

Xavi would be concern
Bergvall out
Porro has to get a rest at some point?
We need to manage Udogie & Solanke
Assuming Tel & Gallagher back?
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Sarr back as well I hope.

I'd give both Porro and Udogie 60 mins by playing Spence for 90 and switching him from left to right or vice versa.
 
I think we have to give Porro a TOTAL rest. Did you see his fumble/miscontrol when played clean through on goal vs Dortmund?
That was a man running on fumes imo, we should heed the warning signs!

I'd go:

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Vicario
Spence Danso Dragusin VDV Udogie
Grey Bissouma Gallagher
Tel Muani
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We save some legs for Frankfurt
We make what use we can of Muani away from home (where crowd will be less harsh on his efforts)
We keep getting Solanke up to fitness
We give Xavi some time to heal a bit


With all the injuries we should have enough options to get a win at Burnley.

COYS

EDIT: Forgot about Bissouma so have swapped Sarr out for him
 
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Would try to keep the promising partnerships.


Porro + Odobert.
Udoggie + Spence

Shame Xavi can't keep his run going.

I'd simply sub in as few changes as possible. Gallagher and Tel in to replace Bergvall and Xavi. VDV could start on the bench, or come back in for Danso. But he is a better out and out defender. VDV has the pace and amazing last ditch challanges, and probably comes back in too.

Bissouma a sub for Gray.
 
I know we've not played Burnley a lot due to their relegations but in this decade we have won 4 times up there which I believe is equal to the number of times we had since I started to support us in 1957, it had always been a difficult place for us, tight little ground with hostile fans, only been once and that was enough, mills and mines very depressing place from memory.
 
Raziel said:
Prioritization will be interesting

- Lose this and we could be 16th and 7 points off relegation battle with an extremely difficult February fixture list to come
- Win against Frankfurt next week and you go into round of 16 and avoid 2 games (with our injuries)

Xavi would be concern
Bergvall out
Porro has to get a rest at some point?
We need to manage Udogie & Solanke
Assuming Tel & Gallagher back?
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For me personally this game should be the priority, more so than both the Dortmund and Frankfurt games.

On a positive note the gap up to a European place isn't impossible at this point, but we have to get wins on the board. But then also the distance down and the upcoming fixtures. Really need a result here.

But playing players that are likely to get injured if they play won't be a good solution either of course.

Hope some of the players are in better condition than it seems from the outside.
 
Just the same intent and positivity we showed against Dortmund. I’d rather play on the front foot and go for it rather than the typical negative football we’ve seen under this manager for the most part during his tenure.
 
If it's 3 at the back, im genuinely going to give up on this season. Such a cowardly, dog brick, passive formation. Frank deserves to follow Amorim if he tries that same trick

I think same as Dortmund as much as possible. Sarr in for Bergvall (Gallagher doesnt look fit enough to be starting yet), and Tel in for Porro (Spence to RB)
 
Not sure why people are writing it out as 3 at the back with 3 CBs

We played a wonky really well against Dortmund i.e. it was 442 but when we had the ball Porro pushed up so that the back 3 was Danso at RCB / Romero / Udogie at LCB.

Tuesday was at home so everyone had a nice bit of rest, stretches, warm down and gentle jogs on Weds/Thurs, then training on Friday and match on Saturday, no need to worry too much.
Not like we played on Wednesday in Dagestan or something!

E.g. Solanke should get 60 or 70mins as he continues to build towards 90s.

My guess:

Porro Danso VdV Udogie
.........Gray Palhinha
Odobert Gallagher Spence
.............Solanke

Subs: Tel (will replace Solanke) Sarr Xavi Bissouma Romero etc



This keeps those promising partnerships from Dortmund, when we slide into 3 at the back:
Porro + Odobert
Udogie + Spence
 
Gutter Boy said:
If it's 3 at the back, im genuinely going to give up on this season. Such a cowardly, dog brick, passive formation. Frank deserves to follow Amorim if he tries that same trick

I think same as Dortmund as much as possible. Sarr in for Bergvall (Gallagher doesnt look fit enough to be starting yet), and Tel in for Porro (Spence to RB)
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@Gutter Boy
In fairness, I always think of three at the back a la Glenn and with a bit more attacking intent than using it as a defensive strategy. To me, it allows pressure higher up the field and a greater chance of winning duals and second-balls in places which pressurise the other side...especialy given we don't have a genuine creative passer available (beyond of course Porro and Romero).

It might well be my error in suggesting this deployment without qualification, but I really believe it is a system that CAN be very supportive of aggressive, attacking intent if deployed slightly up the pitch. More than anything, it prevents us from folding into this confusing, limp mid block where we seem to cede tons of space in key areas.
 
Bullet said:
Not sure why people are writing it out as 3 at the back with 3 CBs

We played a wonky really well against Dortmund i.e. it was 442 but when we had the ball Porro pushed up so that the back 3 was Danso at RCB / Romero / Udogie at LCB.

Tuesday was at home so everyone had a nice bit of rest, stretches, warm down and gentle jogs on Weds/Thurs, then training on Friday and match on Saturday, no need to worry too much.
Not like we played on Wednesday in Dagestan or something!

E.g. Solanke should get 60 or 70mins as he continues to build towards 90s.

My guess:

Porro Danso VdV Udogie
.........Gray Palhinha
Odobert Gallagher Spence
.............Solanke

Subs: Tel (will replace Solanke) Sarr Xavi Bissouma Romero etc



This keeps those promising partnerships from Dortmund, when we slide into 3 at the back:
Porro + Odobert
Udogie + Spence
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Indeed, as we know formations switch depending on attack/defence/phases/where certain players are in transitions.

Generally speaking, I was looking at the three CBs to play to their strengths; Romero on the right of a three, playing slightly higher means he has a good range of angles for passes whether he goes wide, across or seeks a channel (good forbid LOL), similarly, VdV has good angles to maraud from there, with Spence or Palhinha able to drop in (Gray too), Super Kev in the middle. And yes, those partnerships further forwards...in this case it's probably more Spence and Tel looking to connect on one side, with Odobert coming inside to find Muani. With Gallagher's energy, it just feels like we could force Burnley into errors, etc...of course, this is all based on us WANTING the ball more...well, I'm having fun here LOL!!!!
 
thfcsteff said:
@Gutter Boy
In fairness, I always think of three at the back a la Glenn and with a bit more attacking intent than using it as a defensive strategy. To me, it allows pressure higher up the field and a greater chance of winning duals and second-balls in places which pressurise the other side...especialy given we don't have a genuine creative passer available (beyond of course Porro and Romero).

It might well be my error in suggesting this deployment without qualification, but I really believe it is a system that CAN be very supportive of aggressive, attacking intent if deployed slightly up the pitch. More than anything, it prevents us from folding into this confusing, limp mid block where we seem to cede tons of space in key areas.
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I think it always struggles because:
1) You concede the central midfield battle by having one less player there
2) You can't do a high press because, again, you are a body short
3) You are typically a ballplayer down, as traditionally CBs are the least adept outfield players in possession
4) CBs all hate playing it. You are in the wrong part of the pitch from where is optimum to be, and you've either got too few men to mark (often) or too many

I know Hoddle pulled it off for a while, but I think that was novelty more than anything.

I do now also think it's become particularly toxic, because of Amorim and its association with anti-football. I know no one ever thought the Rory Delap would come back either, but I think us moving to it would be a big gesture of regression.
 
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