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Next Spurs manager mega-thread
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nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
As I recal that was before last week (either that or time is dragging at the moment!) and that it wasnt clear what was "lies"
It seemed the idea he had signed, rather than the idea we were in talks. As well as that he has previous (when moving from Porto to Chelsea) for throwing the press off.
Steed Train
Clive Wilson
Don't tempt fate, this is Tottenham we're talking about
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indianspur
Guest
dont think AVB could have done any better with Wigan
Actually I do and Martinez would have REALLY failed at Chelsea last season.
Boonie
Ramon Vega
Dont know if this has been posted already, have to say I tend to agree with the article.
The Tottenham column: It's hard to escape the feeling that Levy is gambling with the club by replacing Redknapp with Villas-Boas
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By Darren Lewis |
Early next week, everything will become a lot clearer.
The Tottenham's players will return from their summer holidays and Daniel Levy will reveal the identity of the man he believes can do a better job of taking the club forward than Harry Redknapp.
And yet it will be hard for the fans to escape the feeling that their chairman is gambling with the club.
As pointed out elsewhere on MirrorFootball, Andre Villas Boas couldn't handle it at Chelsea .
He couldn't handle the players. He couldn't handle the expectation and he couldn't handle the media.
Yet Spurs have traded a man famed for his man-management skills for a man who showed very little at Stamford Bridge.
And, just as Roy Hodgson and his derided, archaic 4-4-2 has the spectre of Harry Redknapp hanging over him, so too does Villas-Boas.
To be fair, it is not only rival fans of other clubs whose tribalism has branded Redknapp much of a muchness. Spurs fans have done it too.
They have refused to accept the scale of Redknapp's achievement in taking a club with the sixth-biggest wage bill in the Premier League (and, by definition, the country) to fourth, fifth and fourth.
POZNAN, POLAND - JUNE 14: Luka Modric of Croatia looks on during the UEFA EURO 2012 group C match between Italy and Croatia at The Municipal Stadium on June 14, 2012 in Poznan, Poland. (Photo by Claudio Villa/Getty Images)
They refuse to accept that Luka Modric, now so sought after, was treading water at White Hart Lane until Redknapp arrived.
They scoff at the fact that Gareth Bale was going backwards until he worked with Redknapp to become one of the most valued wingers in European football.
And they refuse to accept that Levy had a plan all along. The Spurs chairman didn't invest in the squad and the team in January as he should have done because even then he had been planning for life without Harry.
Had Levy backed Redknapp's big to bring in Carlos Tevez and Gary Cahill back then Spurs surely would have had the solidity at the back and the goals up front to snatch third place.
But then why fund big signings and huge wages when you know you want to ease the man in charge out six months later?
So good luck Daniel Levy with the bold bid for a brave new world at Spurs that few people are convinced by.
Harry Redknapp and Daniel Levy
And maybe those Spurs fans who agree with Levy that the club can do better without Redknapp - and the investment he should have had - need to careful what they wish for.
Villas-Boas has everything to prove and Spurs have everything to lose.
The ex-Porto coach didn't fancy Lampard, Drogba or Ashley Cole. As soon as the door slams shut behind him, all three come back into the Chelsea team and help the club to their first-ever Champions League alongside the FA Cup.
Little wonder then that Spurs fans will be rightly apprehensive about the man who will take the chair next week.
They will look to see which players are in AVB's plans and which are left kicking their heels when the club kick off the new Premier League season at Saudi Sportswashing Machine on August 18.
We've already seen Ryan Nelsen shipped out to QPR. Ledley King's time has run out and the word on the street is William Gallas could be on his way this summer too.
Tottenham 1-5 Chelsea, April 15, 2012: Didier Drogba of Chelsea beats William Gallas of Tottenham Hotspur to score their first goal
The imminent recruitment of Jan Vertonghen from Ajax and Gylfi Sigurdsson from Hoffenheim is a method of operating that would have drawn criticism had Chelsea done it.
The feeling would be that Roman Abramovich is bringing in the stars he fancies and that the man is charge is simply tasked with making it sing.
Well that appears to be the case with Tottenham these days.
Levy is understood to favour moving away from older players and you do sometimes wonder why he doesn't just go the whole hog, get a tracksuit and take training.
After all, Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand and Neville have all helped bed in young players at Manchester United.
The senior citizens at Chelsea all spearheaded the club's assault on silverware last season.
Arsenal's creaking back four were the bedrock of the club's early success under Arsene Wenger.
But Levy wants to go the other way. Presumably to make a few bob in the process.
All of which means the real fear remains that while Spurs fans enjoyed (during the first half of the season anyway) mixing it with Arsenal in the race for Champions League football, the Gunners are set to move on while Tottenham go backwards.
For that not to be the case, Levy - and Villas-Boas - need to pull some real rabbits out of the hat during what remains of this summer.
The Tottenham column: It's hard to escape the feeling that Levy is gambling with the club by replacing Redknapp with Villas-Boas
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By Darren Lewis |
Early next week, everything will become a lot clearer.
The Tottenham's players will return from their summer holidays and Daniel Levy will reveal the identity of the man he believes can do a better job of taking the club forward than Harry Redknapp.
And yet it will be hard for the fans to escape the feeling that their chairman is gambling with the club.
As pointed out elsewhere on MirrorFootball, Andre Villas Boas couldn't handle it at Chelsea .
He couldn't handle the players. He couldn't handle the expectation and he couldn't handle the media.
Yet Spurs have traded a man famed for his man-management skills for a man who showed very little at Stamford Bridge.
And, just as Roy Hodgson and his derided, archaic 4-4-2 has the spectre of Harry Redknapp hanging over him, so too does Villas-Boas.
To be fair, it is not only rival fans of other clubs whose tribalism has branded Redknapp much of a muchness. Spurs fans have done it too.
They have refused to accept the scale of Redknapp's achievement in taking a club with the sixth-biggest wage bill in the Premier League (and, by definition, the country) to fourth, fifth and fourth.
POZNAN, POLAND - JUNE 14: Luka Modric of Croatia looks on during the UEFA EURO 2012 group C match between Italy and Croatia at The Municipal Stadium on June 14, 2012 in Poznan, Poland. (Photo by Claudio Villa/Getty Images)
They refuse to accept that Luka Modric, now so sought after, was treading water at White Hart Lane until Redknapp arrived.
They scoff at the fact that Gareth Bale was going backwards until he worked with Redknapp to become one of the most valued wingers in European football.
And they refuse to accept that Levy had a plan all along. The Spurs chairman didn't invest in the squad and the team in January as he should have done because even then he had been planning for life without Harry.
Had Levy backed Redknapp's big to bring in Carlos Tevez and Gary Cahill back then Spurs surely would have had the solidity at the back and the goals up front to snatch third place.
But then why fund big signings and huge wages when you know you want to ease the man in charge out six months later?
So good luck Daniel Levy with the bold bid for a brave new world at Spurs that few people are convinced by.
Harry Redknapp and Daniel Levy
And maybe those Spurs fans who agree with Levy that the club can do better without Redknapp - and the investment he should have had - need to careful what they wish for.
Villas-Boas has everything to prove and Spurs have everything to lose.
The ex-Porto coach didn't fancy Lampard, Drogba or Ashley Cole. As soon as the door slams shut behind him, all three come back into the Chelsea team and help the club to their first-ever Champions League alongside the FA Cup.
Little wonder then that Spurs fans will be rightly apprehensive about the man who will take the chair next week.
They will look to see which players are in AVB's plans and which are left kicking their heels when the club kick off the new Premier League season at Saudi Sportswashing Machine on August 18.
We've already seen Ryan Nelsen shipped out to QPR. Ledley King's time has run out and the word on the street is William Gallas could be on his way this summer too.
Tottenham 1-5 Chelsea, April 15, 2012: Didier Drogba of Chelsea beats William Gallas of Tottenham Hotspur to score their first goal
The imminent recruitment of Jan Vertonghen from Ajax and Gylfi Sigurdsson from Hoffenheim is a method of operating that would have drawn criticism had Chelsea done it.
The feeling would be that Roman Abramovich is bringing in the stars he fancies and that the man is charge is simply tasked with making it sing.
Well that appears to be the case with Tottenham these days.
Levy is understood to favour moving away from older players and you do sometimes wonder why he doesn't just go the whole hog, get a tracksuit and take training.
After all, Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand and Neville have all helped bed in young players at Manchester United.
The senior citizens at Chelsea all spearheaded the club's assault on silverware last season.
Arsenal's creaking back four were the bedrock of the club's early success under Arsene Wenger.
But Levy wants to go the other way. Presumably to make a few bob in the process.
All of which means the real fear remains that while Spurs fans enjoyed (during the first half of the season anyway) mixing it with Arsenal in the race for Champions League football, the Gunners are set to move on while Tottenham go backwards.
For that not to be the case, Levy - and Villas-Boas - need to pull some real rabbits out of the hat during what remains of this summer.
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indianspur
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:lol: ok
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Milenko Acimovic
Nah, actually I did... and to me, it seems that for the next few months (from the media's POV anyway) EVERYTHING Spurs do WITHOUT Harry Redknapp will be wrong, poor, ill-advised, anti-football... etc etc etc... whereas WHATEVER club Harry goes to next (even if it's one in Dubai) will be the new media darlings of Football... and they're welcome to it...
I'd rather continue our business without a fudging opened window sound-bite after EVERY training session... AVB is almost 100% done now, so let's usher in a new era and welcome the man with open arms... and a wallet full of cash, eh Levy??
COYS
AVB'S BLUE-AND-WHITE-ARMY! (got a ring to it!!)
bankrupt
Darren Caskey
"Treading water" in the few weeks he was at the club, prior to Redknapp joining?
Utter gonad*s. Just another Redknapp-camp journalist rewriting history.
Of course it's a gamble. Any time you appoint a new manager it's a gamble. That doesn't make you wrong for doing it.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
I think that article is a crock of sh!t tbh
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indianspur
Guest
well AVB still has a lot to prove from this point of view as well.....he went into meltdown at Chelsea and someone as inexperienced as RDM had to come in and save the day
and i really dont see how you can make that assessment of Martinez when he hasnt even had the chance
Couldn't be bothered to read article past first two lines but is predictable as to what would have been said. At the end of the day any appointment is a gamble, and you could make a case for any manager possibly not succeeding - even the very best. But at the end of the day we should have only dreamed about getting AVB after his success at Porto, and I'm not buying into him not being an extremely talented coach who can't succeed with us because of his tenure at Chelsea- we are very much a different beast. I'm looking forward to this new era.....
WookieD
Didier Zokora
Not to mention that the entire piece is based on Levy knowing he wanted shot of Redknapp in January... despite Redknapp apparently (so I read anyway) being offered a rolling contract, which he refused, before Levy sacked him? Doesn't sound like the actions of a hangman to me, unless it was a master class in kidology.
Nutter-Naylor
Anthony Gardner
Daily Mail reporting 'AVB unveiled as Tottenham boss' .... jumping the gun....
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indianspur
Guest
a case of making an offer you know is not acceptable to the other party....genius
Agreed. Read the first line or two and then gave up with it. At the end of the day, if AVB is the man we now have a manager who:
- will install a level of tactical discipline into the team rather than just tell them to 'run about a bit'
- will have a transfer policy which isnt centred around 33+ year olds
- wont air things which should be kept internal in the press
- wont tap up players from other clubs via the media with comments like 'player x is a great player and one any manager would like but he currently plays for y and so is unavailable. Of course if they wanted to sell him...'
- is under the age of 65 so will view Spurs as a platform where he can build a legacy
- will employ back room staff which are based around the best people for the jobs and their specialist skills rather than being appointed simply because they're retired English players
...and many other advantages...
