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Modric - No Longer A Spurs Player

If you watch Modric whenever we score a goal he celebrates enthusiastically, jumping up and down and I'm not just talking about when he scores - he certainly doesn't look like someone who doesn't want to be here.

I'd be extremely surprised if we did make CL and he wasn't here....
 
Great so I would also like us to be more clinical in front of goal, does that mean I should support Chelsea? That's an idiotic comment.

People bitch about Lennon, walker, and rose's crossing abilities all the time! Why do you mention Defoe, he shouldn't be taking corners, he should be in the box to get on the end of them! At least VDV can beat the first man on corners. I actually think ekotto could take a very good corner but he doesn't get given the chance to do so often. People bitch about modric's corners because he persists in taking then when his delivery is ofen crap, why not let someone else do it?

We have one of the best, most technical players we've had at this club for a very long time, yet people insist on complaining about his corner taking. I'm reminded of a quote about Hoddle.

Yeah, cause no other team has strikers taking corners... Oh. Wait!

If you really think Modric is the one who decides who should be taking corners then we have very little to talk about on this subject.
 
This!
Everyone seems to be talking bout him like its possible he'll come to us... It aint. City and United are said to be frontrunners and if he really does want 200k it'll be City.

As for Modric. Heard on the radio they've had an offer on the table for him to make him the best paid player at the club... That offers been there since September and he's still not signed. That says to me that he's off.

could just as easily be because he is waiting to see if we qualify for the CL or not
 
I dont disagree with much of that, Im a huge fan of VDV and have been since long before we got him.

Doesnt detract from the point I made though, which is that Im not convinced the good things he brings out weight the contraints he brings.

There are times when I just wish for more options and variety in the midfield/attack and it all comes back to him holding it as it is.

Options, variety - cant be a bad thing at all.

100% agree with this

i know i shouldnt compare him to these players but players like bergkamp and cesc (when in front of Wheelchair and song) are the kind of guys you would expect VDV to emulate

most likely the most talented player on our roster but definitely the guy that i feel the most unfulfilled with
 
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This!
Everyone seems to be talking bout him like its possible he'll come to us... It aint. City and United are said to be frontrunners and if he really does want 200k it'll be City.

As for Modric. Heard on the radio they've had an offer on the table for him to make him the best paid player at the club... That offers been there since September and he's still not signed. That says to me that he's off.

That says to me like last year, he will either accept the offer or be playing at spurs next season on his current salary.
 
And it seems also, that those 6 players wont require any wages either. Its a win win for Volspur.

So you're saying we wouldn't sell the likes of Gio, Kranjcar, Corluka, etc. if we brought in new players?

riiight.

You are dreaming on some of those values! After this season you can double Ba's value there straight away, and add at least another ?ú5m to Ben Arfa. Chances are both will go for over ?ú20m. Dembele would be in the ?ú12m to ?ú15m range.

missing the point. again.

they'res players out there i'm just not going to take the time to continually throw out names until everyones happy

6 quality players and non of them as good as the player we sold.

if carlsberg could waster money and botch up a good thing going

again, I think Modric's great. Just not unsellable, and imo not worth all 45+ million he's being quoted at. If we're going to have strikers such as Ade who link up play but blow more than a fair share of chances, we're going to need a CM who can score 8+ goals a season to realistically remain around top 3-4.
 
We have one of the best, most technical players we've had at this club for a very long time, yet people insist on complaining about his corner taking. I'm reminded of a quote about Hoddle. So because he is an excellent technical player he is infallible and beyond any criticism...ok then

Yeah, cause no other team has strikers taking corners... Oh. Wait! Are those other strikers to which you refer pretty much only goal poachers like defoe...nope!

If you really think Modric is the one who decides who should be taking corners then we have very little to talk about on this subject. Given that we supposedly don't work on set pieces in training who do you think decides who should take them? Even if we actually do work on set pieces in training, given how ineffectual we are with them do you not agree that we ought to be trying someone else, such as ekotto rather than continuing to use players for whom corners are not their forte? It's almost got to the stage now where teams are happy to concede corners agaunst us because they know we will do fudge all with them!.
 
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So because he is an excellent technical player he is infallible and beyond any criticism...ok then

Are those other strikers to which you refer pretty much only goal poachers like defoe...nope!

Given that we supposedly don't work on set pieces in training who do you think decides who should take them? Even if we actually do work on set pieces in training, given how ineffectual we are with them do you not agree that we ought to be trying someone else, such as ekotto rather than continuing to use players for whom corners are not their forte? It's almost got to the stage now where teams are happy to concede corners agaunst us because they know we will do fudge all with them!.

I didn't say he was beyond criticism. I just think it's silly to be focusing on his corners when he offers so much else to the team. Corner and set pieces are specialist jobs, given to whatever outfield player is the best at it. When VdV plays it's pretty much completely irrelevant. If someone else was better than him it would be irrelevant when they played. If he deserves criticism for it so does the rest of our players that aren't better than him at it.

What does goal poaching have to do with it? Central midfielders should be expected to be able to take very good set pieces, but goal poachers shouldn't?

Harry decides who takes set pieces. If not him then one of the coaches, who answers to Harry. If Harry wanted someone else to take the set pieces someone else would take the set pieces.
 
Honest question: Would football fans outside of Spurs rate Modric at ?ú40m?

If he wants to stay then great, but we really don't need another summer of him trying to engineer a move away from the club or him declining to play because his "head isn't right".

There's no doubt we'd miss him, but he's not irreplacable.
 
What I would do with Modric?

Sit him down - sign the 100k a week revised contract or fudge off.

Take your pick. then move on from the whole episode.
 
Honest question: Would football fans outside of Spurs rate Modric at £40m?

If he wants to stay then great, but we really don't need another summer of him trying to engineer a move away from the club or him declining to play because his "head isn't right".

There's no doubt we'd miss him, but he's not irreplacable.

Most of my pals dont think hes worth more than 25m but its what hes worth to us as a club... Carrol wasnt worth 35m but he was instrumental to Saudi Sportswashing Machine and they saw Liverpool had just got a huge cheque from Chelsea so took full advantage. If modric does what he did last summer then we should do the same and early enough to give us time to spend the money wisely.
Maybe invest in wages to give us more clout in transfer negotiations?
 
Most of my pals dont think hes worth more than 25m but its what hes worth to us as a club... Carrol wasnt worth 35m but he was instrumental to Saudi Sportswashing Machine and they saw Liverpool had just got a huge cheque from Chelsea so took full advantage. If modric does what he did last summer then we should do the same and early enough to give us time to spend the money wisely.
Maybe invest in wages to give us more clout in transfer negotiations?

Youre correct - there are contributing factors to determining a price for someone. How easy is he to replace? How much do the other teams need him? What other viable options are there to that particular team? Contract length remaining? How much we brought him for? etc etc etc

So 50m is about right.
 
Honest question: Would football fans outside of Spurs rate Modric at ?ú40m?

If he wants to stay then great, but we really don't need another summer of him trying to engineer a move away from the club or him declining to play because his "head isn't right".

There's no doubt we'd miss him, but he's not irreplacable.

If James Milner went to City for ?ú26m then Modric has to be worth ?ú40m plus.
 
I didn't say he was beyond criticism. I just think it's silly to be focusing on his corners when he offers so much else to the team. Corner and set pieces are specialist jobs, given to whatever outfield player is the best at it. When VdV plays it's pretty much completely irrelevant. If someone else was better than him it would be irrelevant when they played. If he deserves criticism for it so does the rest of our players that aren't better than him at it. On what basis are you saying that none of our players take a better corner than Modric? What sample are you basing this on because it seems to be VDV and Modric that almost exclusively take our corners?

What does goal poaching have to do with it? Central midfielders should be expected to be able to take very good set pieces, but goal poachers shouldn't? No goal poachers shouldn't be taking corners, they should be in the box getting on the end of corners/crosses I would have thought that was simple common sense. It's a bit disingenuous to describe Modric simply as a central midfielder, he is the attacking fulcrum of our team, our chief playmaker, therefore I do feel that it is reasonable to expect him to be able to deliver a good corner.

Harry decides who takes set pieces. If not him then one of the coaches, who answers to Harry. If Harry wanted someone else to take the set pieces someone else would take the set pieces. Well that's lovely, but they should for example look at last match where we had about 20 fudging corners amounting to fudge all and think hmmm perhaps we shouldn't just rely on those two to take our corners.
 
Nobody's irreplaceable. If Modric or anybody else puts in a transfer request, then fudge 'em, get as much cash as possible for them and tell them to shut the door on the way out. The strength of a united squad all fighting for each other and the shirt is worth much more than fancy pants overpaid 'superstars' that want out.
 
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