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Match ratings - Burnley

Vorm - 6
Walker - 6
Dier - 7
Chiriches - 6.5
Rose - 7
Mason - 3
bentaleb - 5
Paulinho - 5
Eriksen - 6
Chadli - 5
Kane - 4

Poch - 1
 
Vorm, Chiriches and Rose get a 7.

Nobody else above a 4.

Poch gets a 2. No excuse for starting Paulinho. No excuse for playing him for 90 minutes. No excuse for leaving Townsend AND Lamela on the bench to leave us with absolutely no pace in the side - we're playing away from home we need fast players who can counter. No excuse for waiting so long to bring on the fast players when it was clear the system wasn't working.

There was none of the pressing and high tempo game that's brought us results in the past. Either our players are tired from a season of double training sessions and a high intensity game, or they've given up on top 4. Either way, as of today - so have I.

Two fast, skilful attacking players are the priorities for next summer. As it should have been last summer. Today was like watching Spurs under Graham after we'd sold Ginola. Awful.
 
Vorm 7 clean sheet and made one really good save.
Rose 6 tried hard, not much cme off though.
Dier 7 solid.
Chirches 6 A bit wobbly to begin with, but settled.
walker 6 Okay until he went off.
Chadli 3 Anonymous.
Paulinho 3 Ibid.
Mason. 5 Needs to impose himself.
Bentaleb.5 same as mason.
Eriksen 4 Has really gone off the boil.
Kane 4 Can't really be blamed given how the players behind him performed.
 
All the talk during the international break on here was about our poor defensive record, lack of protection for the back 4, relying too much on Lloris, defenders not good enough etc. Perhaps rightly, we've been poor defensively.

Pochettino makes the change with Paulinho to make us more solid, and despite missing Lloris, Vertonghen and Fazio and Walker having a mare and going off injured, we kept a clean sheet and defended rather well.

Cue people furious with Pochettino...

I really don't get it.
 
braineclipse said:
All the talk during the international break on here was about our poor defensive record, lack of protection for the back 4, relying too much on Lloris, defenders not good enough etc. Perhaps rightly, we've been poor defensively.

Pochettino makes the change with Paulinho to make us more solid, and despite missing Lloris, Vertonghen and Fazio and Walker having a mare and going off injured, we kept a clean sheet and defended rather well.

Cue people furious with Pochettino...

I really don't get it.
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It's about balance, no point keeping clean sheets at the expense of being impotent in attack and vice versa not put scoring 4 goals if u let the other team score 5. Poch has done a hell of a lot right this season, but this game was clearly not going to plan at half time - there was no change to shape etc.. Lamela for Chadli is a waste of a sub as both are pretty useless (at least this version of Chadli), I think someone like Dembele in the middle would have been made more sense. By going past a player he breaks their nicely formed banks of 4, pulls people around creating space for others which we lacked the entire game and I would have that the only option short of matching their 4-4-2.
 
braineclipse said:
All the talk during the international break on here was about our poor defensive record, lack of protection for the back 4, relying too much on Lloris, defenders not good enough etc. Perhaps rightly, we've been poor defensively.

Pochettino makes the change with Paulinho to make us more solid, and despite missing Lloris, Vertonghen and Fazio and Walker having a mare and going off injured, we kept a clean sheet and defended rather well.

Cue people furious with Pochettino...

I really don't get it.
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Because Paulinho ins't that player to do that, that's why. Why not Stambouli, a much mor solid figure, maybe freeing up Bentaleb and Mason a little more? Even Dembele who can hold on to the ball. Instead he went with Paulinho, who's a little bit like Bentaleb and Mason, tidy enough but can't really do anything that well...

Poch is absolutely to blame today, like he has been most of the season with his awful decisions.
 
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I thought the defence played well considering the lack of leadership and experience

I though mason and Bentelab were all over the place and had a poor game but weren't really helped by anyone in front of them

I've never seen erisken pass the ball so badly but eh was arguably our best attacking option

Kane got zero service and must has felt like playing for England
 
GrimsbyYid said:
Because Paulinho ins't that player to do that, that's why. Why not Stambouli, a much mor solid figure, maybe freeing up Bentley and Mason a little more? Even Dembele who can hold on to the ball. Instead he went with Paulinho, who's a little bit like Bentley and Mason, tidy enough but can't really do anything that well...

Poch is absolutely to blame today, like he has been most of the season with his awful decisions.
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Poorlinho did little wrong and little right and wasn't our worst player by any means but be just offers nothing. He doesn't create, defend or score to any real measure so he doesn't have any impact really.

Strane game to bring him in imo
 
GrimsbyYid said:
Because Paulinho ins't that player to do that, that's why. Why not Stambouli, a much mor solid figure, maybe freeing up Bentley and Mason a little more? Even Dembele who can hold on to the ball. Instead he went with Paulinho, who's a little bit like Bentley and Mason, tidy enough but can't really do anything that well...

Poch is absolutely to blame today, like he has been most of the season with his awful decisions.
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o_O
 
demotw said:
It's about balance, no point keeping clean sheets at the expense of being impotent in attack and vice versa not put scoring 4 goals if u let the other team score 5. Poch has done a hell of a lot right this season, but this game was clearly not going to plan at half time - there was no change to shape etc.. Lamela for Chadli is a waste of a sub as both are pretty useless (at least this version of Chadli), I think someone like Dembele in the middle would have been made more sense. By going past a player he breaks their nicely formed banks of 4, pulls people around creating space for others which we lacked the entire game and I would have that the only option short of matching their 4-4-2.
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We made the Lamela change after an hour, pretty standard time to start making substitutions...

Lamela, for me at least, did quite well after he came on. Set up the Eriksen chance, set up Kane in the box, started a counter attack, worked hard defensively. Shame we couldn't get him on the ball more. The sub made perfect sense to me at least. We weren't getting into good positions in the final third, Townsend/Dembele weren't obvious solutions to that problem.

Dembele at his best does all those things...

GrimsbyYid said:
Because Paulinho ins't that player to do that, that's why. Why not Stambouli, a much mor solid figure, maybe freeing up Bentley and Mason a little more? Even Dembele who can hold on to the ball. Instead he went with Paulinho, who's a little bit like Bentley and Mason, tidy enough but can't really do anything that well...

Poch is absolutely to blame today, like he has been most of the season with his awful decisions.
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But Paulinho did those things, last time when he came on and today.

Been saying all throughout the international break in discussion about our defensive problems that imo the main problem has been the attacking 4 not doing enough defensively. Townsend out, Paulinho in pretty much sorted that out. And despite playing Chiriches and Ben Davies as centre backs we kept a clean sheet and Burnley created very little apart from the early chance we gifted them. Defensively the change worked today...
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Poorlinho did little wrong and little right and wasn't our worst player by any means but be just offers nothing. He doesn't create, defend or score to any real measure so he doesn't have any impact really.

Strane game to bring him in imo
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Compared to who?

Compared to Townsend, who he replaced in the starting line-up, he most certainly does.
 
braineclipse said:
Compared to who?

Compared to Townsend, who he replaced in the starting line-up, he most certainly does.
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He defends better than townsend... Possibly. I didn't see anything of note defensively from him to be honest but be was meant to be playing number 10!!!!! He created very little and spanked a shot wideim trying hard not to criticise him because he wasnt the worse player for us. I just don't get why he played him at all
 
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Bedfordspurs said:
He defends better than townsend... Possibly. I didn't see anything of note defensively from him to be honest but be was meant to be playing number 10!!!!! He created very little and spanked a shot wideim trying hard not to criticise him because he wasnt the worse player for us. I just don't get why he played him at all
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The idea with pressing from the front, working as a unit, it's that it doesn't matter if you're the number 10 or number 4, you have to do your job defensively. It's where we've struggled recently. Paulinho did that.

I'm not arguing that he did well enough going forward... But I also think that very few of our players today did well enough on the ball.

I really don't think you can say that "he doesn't defend" and then also claim that you're trying hard not to criticise him.
 
I never said he doesn't defend I said he doesn't do anything well including defending or attacking

He actually doesn't do anything very well
 
vorm - 6

walker - 2
dier - 5
chiriches - 6
rose - 6

mason - 4
bentaleb - 4
paulinho - 4

eriksen - 5
kane - 5
chadli - 3
 
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