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Marcos Senesi

Not yet.
But Liverpool's transfer dealings aren't all at the behest of the manager so rather think they'd have expressed interest before now. And it seems we have been in contact since the start of the year at least.
Would be very vexing if this one somehow slips by but don't start donning the sackcloth and ashes just yet.
 
Finney Is Back said:
All I want is for us to have a coherent football strategy. Something we didn’t have under Levy for the last 8 years or so of his reign. It meant we wasted money on players and wasted money on hiring and firing managers.

Only time will tell whether the new exec team will do better than the old one. I doubt they can do any worse however.
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Mate, honestly, take a look at your biases

While you have a point re the spend and hire/fire, the owners did not come in and say "we believe the right amount of money has been allocated in last 5 years, we believe it hasn't been spent well and will bring the right people in to ensure that by better recruitment, smarter deals we can achieve our on field objectives". They have literally come in, every second fudging statement is about investment, gaps, what we need to do against other big sides (they are not doing low net spend), there is a very big, implied statement that Levy was the one (wage bill. spend) holding us back (flimflam, because it was always their money).

To also say they can't do worse after watching them take the club to the last game of season to avoid relegation (never happened under Levy) and go through 3 managers in a season is some mental gymnastics.

That is also avoiding the real question of why Levy was fired (and as I've said elsewhere, if anyone really believes after 25 years, a set of 60-year-old nepo babies suddenly became football fans, there isn't even a conversation to be had).

If there is no real investment made in the club (yes, money exceeding the value of our regular 150M net spend per season) after the worse season on our PL history, the only conclusion is they are fudging liars who are here to sell the club.

I'm happy to be proven wrong, I would love to see the club suddenly correct its ways and us be real contenders but nothing I'm seeing right now gives me a ton of hope.

Personally, I think you and a couple of other posters are so happy to see the previous board gone (don't take it as an attack, genuinely, sometimes we need to look at how we perceive things) that you are giving these guys a clean slate (they are not new owners) and not judging the season gone as their work (it is, not 50%, not 25%, it's 100% on them).
 
Raziel said:
Mate, honestly, take a look at your biases

While you have a point re the spend and hire/fire, the owners did not come in and say "we believe the right amount of money has been allocated in last 5 years, we believe it hasn't been spent well and will bring the right people in to ensure that by better recruitment, smarter deals we can achieve our on field objectives". They have literally come in, every second fudging statement is about investment, gaps, what we need to do against other big sides (they are not doing low net spend), there is a very big, implied statement that Levy was the one (wage bill. spend) holding us back (flimflam, because it was always their money).

To also say they can't do worse after watching them take the club to the last game of season to avoid relegation (never happened under Levy) and go through 3 managers in a season is some mental gymnastics.

That is also avoiding the real question of why Levy was fired (and as I've said elsewhere, if anyone really believes after 25 years, a set of 60-year-old nepo babies suddenly became football fans, there isn't even a conversation to be had).

If there is no real investment made in the club (yes, money exceeding the value of our regular 150M net spend per season) after the worse season on our PL history, the only conclusion is they are fudging liars who are here to sell the club.

I'm happy to be proven wrong, I would love to see the club suddenly correct its ways and us be real contenders but nothing I'm seeing right now gives me a ton of hope.

Personally, I think you and a couple of other posters are so happy to see the previous board gone (don't take it as an attack, genuinely, sometimes we need to look at how we perceive things) that you are giving these guys a clean slate (they are not new owners) and not judging the season gone as their work (it is, not 50%, not 25%, it's 100% on them).
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I don’t care what they said. What I said is that all I want is for us to have a coherent football strategy. Something we didn’t have under Levy for the last 8 years or so of his reign. We may or may not now see one but at least we now have a chance of doing so.

If you think this season wasn’t the outcome of the last 8 years then that’s your prerogative, I just happen to think it was…. And yes I’m delighted to see the previous exec team go.
 
thfcsteff said:
I see it as...

1) Romero has decided to go, and for the overall shape of the club going forward it has been decided to agree. I doubt DeZerbi wants anyone who is not 100% committed.

2) It allows Vuskovic to spend another year honing and developing; I suspect we'll take him back after next season. I did not know what you pointed out yesterday re: homegrown, and honestly? I look forward to having those problems again!!!

3) Let's see what else we do in the window.

I don't especially see this as asset-stripping TBH. I think given Romero's history with the PGMOL, reputation, and the waves of anger (IMO misdirected) towards him this season, he might well be ready to go elsewhere.
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I think a fair pov from Romero's side is 'im 28, I rate myself, I can't waste any more years at Tottenham'
 
Raziel said:
Personally, I think you and a couple of other posters are so happy to see the previous board gone (don't take it as an attack, genuinely, sometimes we need to look at how we perceive things) that you are giving these guys a clean slate (they are not new owners) and not judging the season gone as their work (it is, not 50%, not 25%, it's 100% on them).
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I think you're conveniently ignoring some of the really objective arguments about the Levy leadership years, especially the recent ones. I'm totally of the opinion that Daniel didn't run our club well post stadium / COVID. He made poor decisions and his company's culture permeated through our club. He rightly fell on his sword.

Can't say I'm not worried about the new leadership group but you don't take over a broken organisation and fix it this quickly. FSG took over Pool in 2010. They won the CL in 2019 and the league in 2020. I think they had one league cup in those first 8 or 9 years. My concern is that FSG had a decent history of running big sports teams like Red Sox. I'm not sure these new Tavistock people (???) do including the siblings. Sport isn't really their core business. However, we have to wait and see whether their natural leadership smarts assimilate to this new environment and they bring in the right leadership group. Liverpool did. They even hired and exec to sit on transatlantic flights to act as the bridge between UK and US and make sure LFC was correctly represented in the US boardroom. They they went and got the right experiences around them knowing that "soccer" wasn't their expertise.

I just hope Spurs fans have some patience. Joe Lewis himself started modest. London catering, selling businesses and then moving into currency trading before the Bear Stearns story etc. Self made multi-billionaire. If his kids have the same smarts as their dad, we could be in for better times. Those smarts could eclipse Levy's, who did some good work on the journey. Ultimately though, Daniel's football industry smarts did come up short. Again, my opinion.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Nope, Its different because of the age, onc injury and thats them pretty much done with you and any type of upside they may have had at 32, you end up having someone sat on a large wage even without the transfer fee.

At 29, there is still plenty of upside even if they miss 6 months through injury.

There is a difference
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There's also the 500 games data/theory - i.e. that age doesn't matter so much, but that all players burn out at around 500 games. Robertson is now on 580 games, whereas Senesi is only on 316
 
Gutter Boy said:
There's also the 500 games data/theory - i.e. that age doesn't matter so much, but that all players burn out at around 500 games. Robertson is now on 580 games, whereas Senesi is only on 316
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Beyond the science if people dont think there is a difference between a 32 year old and 29 year old in footballing age terms then I think they are being disingenuous
 
Gutter Boy said:
There's also the 500 games data/theory - i.e. that age doesn't matter so much, but that all players burn out at around 500 games. Robertson is now on 580 games, whereas Senesi is only on 316
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Robertson has played over 40,000 minutes of professional football vs Sensei's 25,000 minutes. That is a lot more wear and tear than a 3 year age difference would suggest.
 
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