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Liverpool thread

Liverpool won their first five PL games, including wins over Arsenal and at Saudi Sportswashing Machine. They didn't seem to be missing Jota then.
 
I don't think any of this Salah situation is to do with Jota.

I have a Liverpool supporting friend who from last spring when they were on their good run was very vocally anti Salah and thought it was the biggest act of stupidity (and actually betrayal) to give Salah an extension when they did.
He felt Salah was a snake for a long time before then, stretching back to how he felt he publicly disrespected Klopp when he was a sub coming on in a game against West Ham: Klopp was giving him a pat or hug to gee him up as he often did to his subs before coming on and Salah pushed Klopp away and Klopp was like wtaf and there was a mini argument for a moment on the touchline.
My friend thought he showed his poisonous colours then, and was cheesed off when it seemed like he was being 'rewarded' for such a poor attitude when a year later he got his contract extension. He felt at 32/33 it was perfect time to say thanks for the memories and wish him farewell. He certainly would much rather have tried to keep Trent.
My friend has seen Salah's downturn in performances and this outburst coming since then.

This same friend also thinks Slot is untrustworthy and weak and said it was telling that it took their ex-manger Klopp to come out and say 'come on, why are you doing this' publicly to the Liverpool fans when they were booing Trent near the end of last season whilst Slot gave him no public support at all, seemingly siding with the booing mob...

I think that moment when Trent was hung out to dry was probably when the seeds of the current malaise were sewn: you could see how some of his teammates like Szobozslai were quite annoyed and bewildered with the situation. That can lead to a slight 2-5% drop in intensity of effort and a feeling of 'why am in bothering to go the extra mile for these lot'...a bit like the delicate issue we have with our won players booing booed at home games, it can lead to not quite putting the energy in the most positive direction that the team needs...

Oh well, bleep Salah anyway, the gobby qnt
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Ultimately we all know the hardship of losing someone close and yes it impacts everyone differently. I lost a mate from suicide and it hit me hard and still does to an extent, however, and as harsh as it sounds, everyone gets a level of leeway with grief, we all do or at least should from those around us and work etc, however there is a point where the harsh reality is, it can't be a long term excuse for a long decline in performances, that not me being harsh, that just realistic
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Can someone PLEASE point out to me where Liverpool have spoken about it being an excuse?
 
tommysvr said:
Haha...you're talking about it in the Liverpool thread, in the context of their form and a page or two talking about it being used as an excuse. I guess I just misunderstood what you meant!
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Well my intent was to be a more middling voice on the back and forth, that backfired clearly

I think in the context of the individual post where I have not mentioned them and the subject there or before it would be taken as it is, considering i made it in part a personal example for myself. I will be clearer next time for everyone.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
I think there are a number of issues at play here:

- The summer purchases have been poor in their start but also weird in their selection, WB at RB and two strikers who play almost entirely the same way, Wirtz, I am not even anywhere near convinced given the price tag.

- The ageing of the best, VVD looks a shadow of a player as does Salah, people say "legs don't go over night" but they do go usually after a pre season too many, and it seems that for both of them

- VVD tearing down confidence, I have not seen a game where he is not chewing out a player in a Liverpool shirt for his own mistakes, I think he is starting to have a massively negative impact on confidence

- Oldest trick in the book by Salah, after some poor results, come out and make it about the manager to try and vindicate yourself but also to garner fan and board support to oust someone who is testing you as a player...........seen it a million times in the game.
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A little late but I'd add to it

- The number of no longer there -> Diaz, Nunez (both runners), Trent, Thiago, Matip and of course Jota
- The balance of incoming wrong, getting two strikers who won't play together at the cost of other positions makes no sense
- Slot isn't as good as people thought, the more the side becomes "his" the worse it looks

Actual gameplay wise, they don't seem to press as much/effectively high, that allows the opposition more opportunity to go at the defense (which has aged and isn't as good, with the FBs being a real problem).

Long may it continue, truly unlikable club who has had the rub of the green for a while now, a little revert to mean would be fun to watch.
 
Raziel said:
A little late but I'd add to it

- The number of no longer there -> Diaz, Nunez (both runners), Trent, Thiago, Matip and of course Jota
- The balance of incoming wrong, getting two strikers who won't play together at the cost of other positions makes no sense
- Slot isn't as good as people thought, the more the side becomes "his" the worse it looks

Actual gameplay wise, they don't seem to press as much/effectively high, that allows the opposition more opportunity to go at the defense (which has aged and isn't as good, with the FBs being a real problem).

Long may it continue, truly unlikable club who has had the rub of the green for a while now, a little revert to mean would be fun to watch.
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Nunez despite being ridiculed for his record was key to their press and energy
 
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