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Levy's Plan

robp135 said:
I’d argue the only good hire that Levy ever made was Arsenson. Everyone else was always reactionary or 2nd/3rd choices that turned out to work.
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Disagree. Arnesen was a DoF with a huge bias on recruiting players in. His track record of doing that was as hit and miss as the next man. We didn't need that model as much as a general manager for football operations to cover our chairman's own weaknesses. Levy's only real attempt at that was Trevor Birch who jumped ship quickly. All Arnesen did was stockpile players for a short period of time. We never saw a full cycle of whether he could optimise a squad managing both sides of the equation. We never really saw what Birch could do all those years later but I have a feeling he would have been our best hire in the leadership team based on his long tenure as chief exec of the EFL.
 
Finney Is Back said:
A football agent that I trust told me a story that Baldini accidentally signed Benjamin Stambouli (he got the names mixed up and thought he was signing somebody else from Montpellier).
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Im not sure that's true. We'd been eyeing up the CM at Southampton all window, and profile wise Stambouli was very similar.

That sound like a rehash of the old Luther Bissett from Watford to Milan story (when they wanted John Barnes), which was apparently true.
 
parklane1 said:
You managed to find a football agent that you can trust WOW. o_O
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Several. Most of them look out for their clients best interests. Just as in any industry there are a few out there who are instead looking out for their own best interests. However, I have seen many young players who have been badly taken advantage of by football clubs when they don't have decent representation.
 
Baleforce said:
everything at the entire organisation has completely collapsed since firing him

which I'm not at all surprised by
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Everything was collapsing before he left. We finished 17th. This is all the result of him buying cheap for years, trying to smart arse transfers which we then lost out on, ping ponging between managers with completely different styles and micromanaging aspects of the football side he didn’t understand.

There is a lot of blame to go around but he gets the biggest share.
 
Mikey10 said:
Everything was collapsing before he left. We finished 17th. This is all the result of him buying cheap for years, trying to smart arse transfers which we then lost out on, ping ponging between managers with completely different styles and micromanaging aspects of the football side he didn’t understand.

There is a lot of blame to go around but he gets the biggest share.
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I don't agree.

I think he'd have turned it around quite quickly.
 
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Mikey10 said:
Everything was collapsing before he left. We finished 17th. This is all the result of him buying cheap for years, trying to smart arse transfers which we then lost out on, ping ponging between managers with completely different styles and micromanaging aspects of the football side he didn’t understand.

There is a lot of blame to go around but he gets the biggest share.
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We would not be in this position with him at the helm… Fact!
 
Mikey10 said:
Everything was collapsing before he left. We finished 17th. This is all the result of him buying cheap for years, trying to smart arse transfers which we then lost out on, ping ponging between managers with completely different styles and micromanaging aspects of the football side he didn’t understand.

There is a lot of blame to go around but he gets the biggest share.
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I think it's a dialectic personally...he absolutely caused many of the problems, many of them.
Equally, they were compounded in a ridiculously short amount of time by the absolute idiots who thought they could undo 25 years of lock-and-key micro-management and sole-point leadership in what, 6 months DURING the season and having just hired a new manager?
Absolute morrrrrons.
I think change was necessary and it should've been with much more care and much more calm and assistance from Levy. In effect, it should've been made attractive to him and we should've eased out over the course of 12-18 months. What we did was arrogant and careless IMO anyway...this is indeed long discussion and certainly one to have mate.
 
thfcsteff said:
I think it's a dialectic personally...he absolutely caused many of the problems, many of them.
Equally, they were compounded in a ridiculously short amount of time by the absolute idiots who thought they could undo 25 years of lock-and-key micro-management and sole-point leadership in what, 6 months DURING the season and having just hired a new manager?
Absolute morrrrrons.
I think change was necessary and it should've been with much more care and much more calm and assistance from Levy. In effect, it should've been made attractive to him and we should've eased out over the course of 12-18 months. What we did was arrogant and careless IMO anyway...this is indeed long discussion and certainly one to have mate.
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It can be pretty short, Steff - I completely agree. 😀 I just don’t buy the idea that Levy isn’t at the centre of where we find ourselves.
 
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