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James Maddison

The worlds gone mad, he is not a work, he is not “on the clock” he is free to do what he likes when he likes unless it’s within working hours.

People complaining about him going for a night out are the real clams. The guy has a pretty stressful job whilst being a father of 50 kids, he is allowed to let his hair down.
Is there even evidence he was “hammered” anyway. He was upright and the pub they were in looked fairly quiet and seemed to be a lot of younger family members in their group.

Total non issue. “Man photographed in pub with family and friends”
 
So I did see the brief video of Maddison and he didn't exactly look compos mentis. It was on a Sunday night after the Spurs weekend game and before the international break. Did he even feature or was he injured? So it does look like he's been out "drinking" and caught on camera. That is never a great look for these so called "role models" but I can understand that if there is an alocohol curfew then it would be for the non-internationals on these days.

Thinking back to Richi, this one comes back to the new culture that we're trying to achieve under RDZ and the new THFC leadership group. We just have to trust that this is a one off for Madds and he won't become an ongoing issue. We don't need any more players that don't buy in to the club culture and just do or say what they want. Clearly Richi broke that model. I'm sensing Madds did as well but as a one off. I'm also sensing Richi probably did more than just the one thing that created the outcome it did.

I guess this all becomes old news pretty quickly.
 
We just have to trust that this is a one off for Madds and he won't become an ongoing issue. We don't need any more players that don't buy in to the club culture and just do or say what they want. Clearly Richi broke that model. I'm sensing Madds did as well but as a one off.

What's the issue and what makes you say he's not buying into the club culture?
 
What's the issue and what makes you say he's not buying into the club culture?

Many ways of looking at it......and we don't know as fans. Only the club knows.

1) From his employers perspective, Madds is completely empowered to head to Coventry, see family and friends and head to the pub. International break and he's not involved. It's not exactly a massive distance from North London and he has some non-physical training the next day or some physio / stetching etc. Perhaps Monday is a complete day off and spend time with the fam.

2) Spurs thinks Madds is at home in North London and have planned a reasonably toughy conditioning session with him on the Monday. It should be a business as normal night at home followed by training / conditioning work. Then they see pictures of him drunk on social media.

(Build whatever scenario you want)

So there is only an issue if Spurs think there is an issue and only they will know. It will be about whether Madds is going to go rogue on them and dip beneath the standards they set. Personally, I've not watched the many youtube vids he posted during his recovery but everyone was wax lyrical about him. He doesn't strike me as anything other than a true famliy man and committed professional. He doesn't strike me as someone who won't toe the party line in his comms either. So there's probably no problem at all.

lol - I'm looking forward to him eventually replacing Neville and Carragher. He actually has a personality and a sense of humour. It will be a shock to all those Sky TV watchers :tearsofjoy:
 
Many ways of looking at it......and we don't know as fans. Only the club knows.

1) From his employers perspective, Madds is completely empowered to head to Coventry, see family and friends and head to the pub. International break and he's not involved. It's not exactly a massive distance from North London and he has some non-physical training the next day or some physio / stetching etc. Perhaps Monday is a complete day off and spend time with the fam.

2) Spurs thinks Madds is at home in North London and have planned a reasonably toughy conditioning session with him on the Monday. It should be a business as normal night at home followed by training / conditioning work. Then they see pictures of him drunk on social media.

(Build whatever scenario you want)

So there is only an issue if Spurs think there is an issue and only they will know. It will be about whether Madds is going to go rogue on them and dip beneath the standards they set. Personally, I've not watched the many youtube vids he posted during his recovery but everyone was wax lyrical about him. He doesn't strike me as anything other than a true famliy man and committed professional. He doesn't strike me as someone who won't toe the party line in his comms either. So there's probably no problem at all.

lol - I'm looking forward to him eventually replacing Neville and Carragher. He actually has a personality and a sense of humour. It will be a shock to all those Sky TV watchers :tearsofjoy:

Right so until there's an issue...there's not? Why build scenarios when none of us could ever know without more information?
 
Big decision to make in the summer, I think his contract ends in 2028 - need to cut him some slack coming back from injury but if he's not playing regularly (and playing well) post Christmas then I think we'll have to look at letting him go. Same with Udogie, there's no point having players around who can't string a few games together.
 
Big decision to make in the summer, I think his contract ends in 2028 - need to cut him some slack coming back from injury but if he's not playing regularly (and playing well) post Christmas then I think we'll have to look at letting him go. Same with Udogie, there's no point having players around who can't string a few games together.
No one is paying for him
So we will end up keeping him which will work out
 
Is there even evidence he was “hammered” anyway. He was upright and the pub they were in looked fairly quiet and seemed to be a lot of younger family members in their group.

Total non issue. “Man photographed in pub with family and friends”
I guess you didn't see the videos of him attempting to get into a scrap?
 
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