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It doesn't make any sense. Vuskovic won't take up a place in the pl squad. Ake will. Also can't go in the cl squad. So if we do bring in a 10 we have to sell a senior player.
We have danso, dragusin, romero, vdv, davies, takai who can play cb. It's the one area of the pitch we are stacked.

If ake came in he'd have to replace one of our over 21s cbs. Not vuskovic. We can loan vuskovic with no need to replace.
It's posted by a nobody, so it not making any sense makes sense :D....
 
I am guessing that the club want to give Vuskovic the chance to develop further whilst Frank wants a ready-baked, full-experience LCB/FB to come in and hit the ground running. I think if we can get it done this is a deal which makes good sense for the 'now' personally.
There is also an option in which Frank has already seen enough of Dragon before and during Spurs to know he won't fit in with what he's trying to do.

Frank is very up to date with players.
 
Would we have a squad place, unless we don't register Davies or Takai? I'd rather just stick with those I think than Ake on loan.

I think Takai would go on loan personally. Frank seems to want ready made solutions now and to allow young players to develop properly??? Ake would answer an area of the squad which needs depth. Experienced too, plus the Dutch connection back there...wanted to ask you while I'm here, do you think Williams-Barnett could be a surprise squad inclusion/breakout this season? I see how aggressive the goons are in blooding raw talent. Whenever I have watched WB I think he's got fantastic skill but cannot decide if his (obviously needing to develop still) physicality would be enough? BTW, very much enjoyed your contributions to the transfer window/squad discussions...
 
It doesn't make any sense. Vuskovic won't take up a place in the pl squad. Ake will. Also can't go in the cl squad. So if we do bring in a 10 we have to sell a senior player.
We have danso, dragusin, romero, vdv, davies, takai who can play cb. It's the one area of the pitch we are stacked.

If ake came in he'd have to replace one of our over 21s cbs. Not vuskovic. We can loan vuskovic with no need to replace.

More like we have Danso, Romero, VDV and Davies right now. Dragusin not until New Year when all is said and done (i.e. Franks's had a chance to see him, bring him back gradually) and Takai is an unproven Prem player who again Frank has not seen enough because he was injured during pre-season.
I think Frank absolutely wants Vuskovic for the future and wants him to get a little more under his belt. Ake absolutely addresses two areas of the squad which need reinforcement i.e. LCB and LB.
I think it'd be an excellent deal to make.
 
More like we have Danso, Romero, VDV and Davies right now. Dragusin not until New Year when all is said and done (i.e. Franks's had a chance to see him, bring him back gradually) and Takai is an unproven Prem player who again Frank has not seen enough because he was injured during pre-season.
I think Frank absolutely wants Vuskovic for the future and wants him to get a little more under his belt. Ake absolutely addresses two areas of the squad which need reinforcement i.e. LCB and LB.
I think it'd be an excellent deal to make.
Think I’d prefer Akanji if that’s the route we’re going down, I know it doesn’t cover the LB depth, but he’s a far better player even if he is 30.
 
I think Takai would go on loan personally. Frank seems to want ready made solutions now and to allow young players to develop properly??? Ake would answer an area of the squad which needs depth. Experienced too, plus the Dutch connection back there...wanted to ask you while I'm here, do you think Williams-Barnett could be a surprise squad inclusion/breakout this season? I see how aggressive the goons are in blooding raw talent. Whenever I have watched WB I think he's got fantastic skill but cannot decide if his (obviously needing to develop still) physicality would be enough? BTW, very much enjoyed your contributions to the transfer window/squad discussions...

We'd still have dragusin, vdv, ake, romero, danso and davies to fit in the 25 man squad. Danso and davies are hg so it helps.
We have some u21 players so that also helps.
If it's true there must be concerns about dragusin coming back.

Whatever it is ake is not a replacement for vuskovic even for a season. He'll be a replacement for dragusin or davies.
 
We'd still have dragusin, vdv, ake, romero, danso and davies to fit in the 25 man squad. Danso and davies are hg so it helps.
We have some u21 players so that also helps.
If it's true there must be concerns about dragusin coming back.

Whatever it is ake is not a replacement for vuskovic even for a season. He'll be a replacement for dragusin or davies.

OK.
My point is that I don't see Dragusin or Vuskovic being registered for the CL.
The bottom line is it would appear that the manager wants Vuskovic to get the regular football he needs this season to be fully prepped for next season.
I don't think we'll see Dragusin until early 2026. At which point we can re-jig our CL registrees if we're good enough to have that opportunity...

it would leave us with

VDV
Romero
Danso
Davies

If you want to compete in multiple competitions, you would really want another 'camera-ready' defender who knows the competitions, has experience and can also fit another role. Ake would work on all fronts. He would be 5th CB and great cover at LB too.
 
I think Takai would go on loan personally. Frank seems to want ready made solutions now and to allow young players to develop properly??? Ake would answer an area of the squad which needs depth. Experienced too, plus the Dutch connection back there...wanted to ask you while I'm here, do you think Williams-Barnett could be a surprise squad inclusion/breakout this season? I see how aggressive the goons are in blooding raw talent. Whenever I have watched WB I think he's got fantastic skill but cannot decide if his (obviously needing to develop still) physicality would be enough? BTW, very much enjoyed your contributions to the transfer window/squad discussions...

The irony here is that we could see a kid like LWB in the CL match day squad but not in the PL equivalent because of how the quota's are managed. We can only name 19 outfield players across A-list, association and club trained selections. It won't take many injuries to see someone like Luca training with the 1st team and even sitting on the bench. That is because the natural B-listers are all out on loan. Then if the game is going to plan, you might see a cameo from the bench. Roy of the Rovers stuff right?

Obviously, we don't want injury crises again.

As for Ake, superb loan option but wouldn't want us to sign him. You would need Davies to leave the club now to make it work I guess. Ake is a way superior player.
 
I remember Ally Gold doing a video at the start of the window saying CB was a priority position and when you boil it down, it does make sense:
- There are question marks over the fitness of Romero, VDV and Dragusin.
- Takai is an unproven punt.
- Vuskovic needs game time
- Frank wants the option to play 3 at the back.
 
It doesn't make any sense. Vuskovic won't take up a place in the pl squad. Ake will. Also can't go in the cl squad. So if we do bring in a 10 we have to sell a senior player.
We have danso, dragusin, romero, vdv, davies, takai who can play cb. It's the one area of the pitch we are stacked.

If ake came in he'd have to replace one of our over 21s cbs. Not vuskovic. We can loan vuskovic with no need to replace.
Suspect the links are BS but if they’re not then my guess is that Ake would go in the CL squad instead of Davies (who would then be fresh for domestic games only) and Gill wouldn’t be registered for the PL (he’s not going to be anyway).
 
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I think Takai would go on loan personally. Frank seems to want ready made solutions now and to allow young players to develop properly??? Ake would answer an area of the squad which needs depth. Experienced too, plus the Dutch connection back there...wanted to ask you while I'm here, do you think Williams-Barnett could be a surprise squad inclusion/breakout this season? I see how aggressive the goons are in blooding raw talent. Whenever I have watched WB I think he's got fantastic skill but cannot decide if his (obviously needing to develop still) physicality would be enough? BTW, very much enjoyed your contributions to the transfer window/squad discussions...
Well, we could give WB minutes in the Cup against Doncaster
 
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