Igor the Interim

[Robspur12]

It's what Arsenal do and they are top of the league for running stats. You advocated Ireola who does exactly the same at Bournemouth, they are the third highest in the league for distance covered. If I remember correctly our distances covered were always up there under Poch too.

With us not being in Europe next season it certainly shouldn't be such an issue, and outrunning opposition tends to win you more games. And even if we have periods of being lower on energy, I'd take that over what I've seen for most of this season....

So why has Igor got a reputation for being a short term manager? I think there is a lot more nuance to the other managers than just "running stats."

 

[harr1984]

So why has Igor got a reputation for being a short term manager? I think there is a lot more nuance to the other managers than just "running stats."

Yeah it's a fair question, I'm not pretending to be an expert on Tudor or saying he is the answer - I simply wouldn't rule him out because it's a difficult squad to manage especially with the players available to him and not easy to get a tune out of them so if he does then I'm at least open to the idea.

He has a reputation for being a short term manager because he has usually stayed in roles for a short time, but that doesn't mean he can't sustain something. He led Marseille to 3rd in the league with 1.83 PPG and he left the club, at Lazio he chose to end things there after a brief spell with 1.9 PPG record. At Juve he was sacked, but there is not a lot to suggest his playing style couldn't work - more off the pitch matters and his happyness I guess....

 

[Robspur12]

It's what Arsenal do and they are top of the league for running stats. You advocated Ireola who does exactly the same at Bournemouth, they are the third highest in the league for distance covered. If I remember correctly our distances covered were always up there under Poch too.

With us not being in Europe next season it certainly shouldn't be such an issue, and outrunning opposition tends to win you more games. And even if we have periods of being lower on energy, I'd take that over what I've seen for most of this season....

Interestingly I looked at teams who played with the most intensity in the league last season. Nottingham Forest played by far with the least and Liverpool were average. Yet both had excellent seasons. As I say the arguments are always more nuanced in reality.

Premier League: Which teams ran and sprinted most in 2024-25?

Premier League: Which teams ran and sprinted most in 2024-25?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[harr1984]

Interestingly I looked at teams who played with the most intensity in the league last season. Nottingham Forest played by far with the least and Liverpool were average. Yet both had excellent seasons. As I say the arguments are always more nuanced in reality.

Premier League: Which teams ran and sprinted most in 2024-25?

Premier League: Which teams ran and sprinted most in 2024-25?

www.bbc.co.uk

Of course, I'm not suggesting different styles don't or can't work. But I wouldn't agree that you can't be successful based on playing with intensity, it can be sustainable if managed correctly.

But I would say I don't think a more passive style is ever going to be one that is taken to at this club based on past experiences....

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Not wanting to rain on people's parade but there is a long way to go. This season has been littered with false dawns - champions league wins, victories away to City and Everton. None of them really built us any momentum in the league. So let's wait and evaluate once we are safe because we are a long way from that yet.

I was very vocal about wanting Igor removed before last Sunday because given the extraordinary circumstances we found ourselves in, I felt we needed a manager who could arrest the slide quickly. Let's face it, in those first 4 games, we were really bad and he didn't look like that guy. Players like Xavi, Tel and Spence have been inconsistent this season. World beaters one minute, chumps the next. In the hustle and bustle of a relegation fight they may revert to type. We need to be patient with this squad.

I will say though Archie Gray is looking really good in his midfield role something which I think some credit should be given to TF whether or not you like him ( just like Brennan Johnson thrived under Ange). Hopefully him and Conor Gallagher (who will come good) will be rotating that position for years to come. We need to find away of keeping them injury free though.

It's great that we have improved, I am starting to warm to Igor. But we have been here before and I'm still nervous as hell about Sunday.

Can only take it every game at a time, any more any less at this point is ridiculous

 

[Ace Face]

Been saying the same for a very long time. I don't think it is Lange's job in any way though. You can easily put public statements out there that don't need a name against them either. That's what Pool and Arsenal did.

First of all, Spurs need to hire a fully qualified referee and analyst that knows the laws of the game inside out. We need to measure this impact by measuring the PL referee's performance against the laws of the game. We need to make that data public, plus the impact it has on our outcome. We then need to have that person sitting pitch side in every game with the laptop. That person needs to be designated by Spurs to talk to the 4th official.

The optics and impact of this would change how we are referee'd. PGMOL would soon adapt if we published objective analysis of their refereeing and even provided kudos where we see it improving. We just need to keep it all non-emotional and start telling PGMOL what they need to do.

Yes, it absolutely needs to be evidence-based. Maybe it doesn’t have Langhe or VV’s name’s attached to it but they would be the ones who would have to sanction it in the first place.

But Utd made an official complaint over yesterday’s game…why have we not done so once this season?

Again, appears to show an utter lack of fight from the higher-ups and is letting the players and managers down when they need support. If Tudor gets a suspension without any type of appeal or complaint from us, especially in the face of the comments by Carrick and Bruno yesterday, then this another very bad look.

 

[SteveAWOL]

We are WAY closer to relegation this season than last. I put the grand total of zero on Spurs being relegated last season. Whereas I have lumped on massively this season (and managed to lay lots off as the odds have come tumbling down as everyone else realised how brick we are)

Thank feck that the 3 promoted teams last season were utter garbage and Southampton soldiered on with Russell Martin who kindly gifted us 6 points to keep us well clear of trouble