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Igor the Interim

SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
Tudor has officially been charged by the FA for implying home bias in the Fulham game. If he gets a ban or anything more than a fine we have to seriously call into question what is the point of anything anymore. A clear as day call goes against us, a refusal for anyone in the refereeing side to examine their own failings in that situation compared to what went on the week before, and were punished again. It’s just ridiculous at this point.
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There must be a word in there somewhere that he can say sounds a lot like another and that his lesser grasp of English got him confused between meanings.. worked up the road after all.
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
Tudor has officially been charged by the FA for implying home bias in the Fulham game. If he gets a ban or anything more than a fine we have to seriously call into question what is the point of anything anymore. A clear as day call goes against us, a refusal for anyone in the refereeing side to examine their own failings in that situation compared to what went on the week before, and were punished again. It’s just ridiculous at this point.
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and a week earlier Rodri said the refs were corrupt and got away with it
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
This sums it up really well. In literally every conceivable way, Frank was bad. The fact that we didn’t counter despite not trying to make the game in possession was frankly just odd. Nothingness was baked into his plan and then he’d gaslight us in press conferences talking about how he would be adding new layers…when he’s already 5 months in and we’re seeing nothing.

For a singular appointment to damn near relegate us…there can’t have been a worse appointment ever made, relative to the size of the club.
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Think its revisionism to say that the Frank appointment "damn near relegated us".

We finished 17th the season before, on 38 points. We lost 22 games. The most any team has managed to lose and not be relegated.

Having played 30 games already this season we would need to lose all our remaining games to even equal last season's loss total.

We are in no worse position than last season. We have simply carried on. The difference is that this season the bottom 3 are far closer points wise to the rest of the league. We massively got away with one last year from a being in real danger situation. This year the relegation threatened teams aren't as bad.

So while the Frank appointment was a symptom of continued poor decision making and he didn't have what it took to improve us, it was Ange and an overall slide in standards that got us here in the first place. Frank is not the reason we are where we are. He was just a woefully inadequate solution to the already dug hole.
 
Gazza Dazzla said:
Don’t remember exactly but something along the lines of the squad was not in a good shape and that it needed a fitness reboot. Something about putting petrol in the engines rings a bell as well?

Google should help you find the exact quotes.
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It's new manager 101 to come into a club that's just sacked their manager and say the players aren't fit enough, it's been done a million times by managers - what he said in itself doesn't mean much.

But the good old eye test watching us under Frank would tell you that our players especially midfielders were nowhere near close enough to the opposition when they had the ball, and the opposition would always swarm our players and be so much quicker.

Of course you could argue that was just the way Frank wanted us to be, but regardless it would naturally mean we aren't as fit as other teams when they are being trained on a daily basis to pressure and close down the opposition whilst we were week after week so passive....
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Think its revisionism to say that the Frank appointment "damn near relegated us".

We finished 17th the season before, on 38 points. We lost 22 games. The most any team has managed to lose and not be relegated.

Having played 30 games already this season we would need to lose all our remaining games to even equal last season's loss total.

We are in no worse position than last season. We have simply carried on. The difference is that this season the bottom 3 are far closer points wise to the rest of the league. We massively got away with one last year from a being in real danger situation. This year the relegation threatened teams aren't as bad.

So while the Frank appointment was a symptom of continued poor decision making and he didn't have what it took to improve us, it was Ange and an overall slide in standards that got us here in the first place. Frank is not the reason we are where we are. He was just a woefully inadequate solution to the already dug hole.
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Sigh…I know most people are probably bored of the debate but we were simply not in relegation trouble last season. This season we are. Had we been last season, we would have made different player selections in the league and likely pulled away. We probably wouldn’t have allowed the squad to be hungover on the final day, or played Reguliion in the penultimate league game.

This season was a fresh start. A new appointment. A deeper squad. The decision to appoint Frank was bad, and the decision to stick with him 3 months too long was bad. The whole Frank experiment might still relegate us. Ange’s standards won us a trophy. But if it’s your view that the players, after the parade, thought ‘fantastic! I’ve won a trophy but the gaffer said it was fine to lose games, looking forward to kicking back this year…’ or any derivation of that, rather than being hungry and proud of the success that they finally brought to Spurs, then we just won’t agree.

I think it’s much more likely that by whiplashing the squad from Ange to Frank, and Frank playing a horrific style of football that the players clearly did not buy into, that we had another dreadful league season.
 
Rafa87 said:
There must be a word in there somewhere that he can say sounds a lot like another and that his lesser grasp of English got him confused between meanings.. worked up the road after all.
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Yeah I mean saying the ref was for the ‘home team’ is just a non native speaker saying plainly most of the decisions went their way, rather than bias. If Tudor gets anything other than a fine after everything we’ve had to deal with this season from refs I might seriously flip out.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Think its revisionism to say that the Frank appointment "damn near relegated us".

We finished 17th the season before, on 38 points. We lost 22 games. The most any team has managed to lose and not be relegated.

Having played 30 games already this season we would need to lose all our remaining games to even equal last season's loss total.

We are in no worse position than last season. We have simply carried on. The difference is that this season the bottom 3 are far closer points wise to the rest of the league. We massively got away with one last year from a being in real danger situation. This year the relegation threatened teams aren't as bad.

So while the Frank appointment was a symptom of continued poor decision making and he didn't have what it took to improve us, it was Ange and an overall slide in standards that got us here in the first place. Frank is not the reason we are where we are. He was just a woefully inadequate solution to the already dug hole.
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Complete nonsense. We were never in relegation danger last season. Points total is only relevant in relation to the 18th placed team, and we were nowhere near them.
 
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

A draw against Liverpool was positive. They are also a team are very sexy this season.

Beat Athletico was good. However, they went in to the game knowing they just had not loose by 3.

The last two games give us hope for the relegation battle, but nothing more.

Get to the summer remaining in the PL and then major surgery is needed.
 
monkeybarry said:
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

A draw against Liverpool was positive. They are also a team are very sexy this season.

Beat Athletico was good. However, they went in to the game knowing they just had not loose by 3.

The last two games give us hope for the relegation battle, but nothing more.

Get to the summer remaining in the PL and then major surgery is needed.
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No matter how brick Liverpool are or how good we are we usually bend over at Anfield so it was a positive regardless.

We can only hope this past week is the base for momentum building, and at the very least it's given the fans a more positive feeling which is important in terms of supporting the team at the ground etc....
 
If he keeps us up, id absolutely consider making it permanent.

Getting a Spurs team to actually dig in and pick up points when needed is not for nothing.
 
harr1984 said:
No matter how brick Liverpool are or how good we are we usually bend over at Anfield so it was a positive regardless.

We can only hope this past week is the base for momentum building, and at the very least it's given the fans a more positive feeling which is important in terms of supporting the team at the ground etc....
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Absolutely.
But let's not carried away - some of the talk over the last few days you'd think we've got prime Modric and Bale and have a shot at the title.
 
Baleforce said:
If he keeps us up, id absolutely consider making it permanent.

Getting a Spurs team to actually dig in and pick up points when needed is not for nothing.
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Weirdly I have a premonition this is what happens.
We then struggle, and he's gone in November.
We basically become West Ham.

I'm not saying no. But it is going to be a difficult choice. But probably a better one than making yet another change - could easily become the new Martin Jol; a good manager that happened by accident.
 
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