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Have We Got The Worst Atmosphere In The Country

veryoldspur said:
I have been to both the Bournemouth and Villa game this season, as well as many other games since the opening of the new stadium, and the atmosphere has got worse and worse. You can scour YouTube, and supporters of many other clubs say the same thing about our stadium. There is a belief that the players need to get the supporters up for the game, then there is a belief that the supporters need to get the team up for the game, I am in the latter camp. Even in the last few years at the old stadium the atmosphere started to get worse, but now other than the very occasional game against a big club when we are winning, it's like a library. Go to Palace or Leeds (for example) and the supporters sing throughout the game regardless of performance or result, but at our place it's deadly quiet. I don't think there is a single answer to the question, but I would like to know your views on why it is like it is, and what can be done
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Agreed!!!
Supporters need to take responsibility. Personally, I wish we'd adopt the mentality of (say) Palace and have a hardcore group in the Park Lane who foster the same atmosphere from there.
I also agree it is the supporters job to support!
 
Nutter-Naylor said:
Only been to 2 home games and 2 away games this season.

The matchday 'experience' in general is awful. And expensive. I don't enjoy it and I am certainly in no great rush to get to a game any time soon.

No idea what the answer is but winning a few games would probably help.

Oh, as for the OPs question, the answer is no, it's bad but WHU must be the worst by some margin.
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Last time I was there was 2 years ago and it was absolutely terrible, just awful, a massive, massive wet fart of epic proportions.
 
SirPercyHotspur said:
Atmosphere at any stadium is only as good as how the team are performing, even the much vaunted Anfield was as quiet as "you could hear a pin drop" according to the TV commentators from when Man U got a second until the end of the match yesterday.
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Yes, I have been to Liverpool many times and it is pretty quiet. I refuse to accept that it's the players who should lift the team. Go to Crystal Palace and they sing regardless of score or performance.

There have been some good comments made. The traditional male twenty something who makes most of the noise has ben priced out of the game, and that definitely makes a difference. I am seriously getting to the point where I may not bother to go to the games because the lack of atmosphere is taking away a lot of the experience. The club must realise they have a problem, so perhaps they need a bit of a taskforce
 
Palace are standout a different league to anyone else in the country. They are about halfway to an average continental crowd though - grounds like Split and Prague have blown my socks off in comparison to the malaise the EPL is.
 
One place where team performance seems to have transformed the atmosphere, my only experience is from TV is at The Woolwich , seems pretty noisy to me when watching on TV.
 
I’ve been told on occasion to keep my voice down by some sitting near me on the shelf side. Bonkers. I obviously didn’t listen.
 
Gutter Boy said:
I would say its a combination of:

1) Too high a proportion of old fans (50+), who are just jaded
2) Too much cocaine, making people bad company
3) The loss of some of the South Korean colour and joy
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4) too many driving a profile for themselves as masters of doom
5) fans wanting to own the atmosphere experience (its not organic anymore and too many want to punch down)
6) its rank bad
 
I find it very very odd that we build a 62k stadium with a 17k stand, yet do nothing to seat the more hardcore supporters in that stand to get an atmosphere. Baffling. Why don't we? It should definitely be possible with a bit of goodwill from the club. It would lift the players and the team so much. It's embarrassing how brick it is now.
 
Daisuk said:
I find it very very odd that we build a 62k stadium with a 17k stand, yet do nothing to seat the more hardcore supporters in that stand to get an atmosphere. Baffling. Why don't we? It should definitely be possible with a bit of goodwill from the club. It would lift the players and the team so much. It's embarrassing how brick it is now.
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How do you define a 'hardcore' supporter? A 20-30 year old who wants to sing, or a 50-60-70 year old who has followed the team for decades?
How do you persuade people who have chosen to have their ST in the South Stand since the new ground opened to pay to sit elsewhere in the stadium? How do you guarantee that what replaces them is any different/better?
It's a difficult one to solve, but there are fan groups working with the club to find a way to make things better.
Certainly having the away fans at the opposite end of the ground doesn't help (although contrary to the myth, they are not next to the family section. The family section is in the NW corner. Away fans are NE).
 
The football we were playing on Sunday, I almost expected for Thomas Frank to be found by the Scooby Gang, his masked to be pulled off as it is revealed that he is really Gareth Southgate.

Fed up with this flat passing sideways and backwards. Where’s the being brave about this?!

I havent been able to go to a Spurs match for a few years. When I used to go, I’d sing and shout. That’s what I feel I pay my mine to do. To go there and to let loose of all pent up frustration by singing positively for the team.

I had to have a few words with a Southampton supporter at their ground. I was sat in with them for one of their matches, I can’t remember who against. And they started to go off at Redmond. I told them to support him as he was one of theirs.

I think for us one of the biggest issues is that we win so rarely at home right now. For how much people pay. For the expectations of the club. To have won 3 home league matches in what, 20 or so?! It’s beyond unacceptable. Of course supporters demand more.

But supporters also need to go to enjoy it. To make it an experience rather than a chore. Yes, we might lose so focus on time with those supporting around you, focus on the chance to get out of the house and doing something you clearly enjoy most of the time. Appreciate what there is to enjoy about the day instead of going off at whatever you don’t like. Ultimately it’s up to you, but I hope you can get some enjoyment out of being there.

Im writing this as I’m sat on a train, so sorry for the long and fractured post.
 
If I remember rightly when ST's went on sale when the stadium opened no ST's were offered in block 113 which is the block next to the away support, the whole block was made only available to members in the members sale , if fans want to go and hurl abuse at away fans and sing why not choose to sit in block 113.
Am assuming that it is thought that the away fans are the hardcore , my neighbour goes to almost every away game but he doesn't want to sit in the south to sing prefers to sit in the upper tier.

The club have attempted a singing section in the south stand but had limited response , it's all in the FAB minutes.


Significant paragraph from the minutes..

Club wants to take a fair approach for all fans and cannot mandate that thousands of Season Ticket Holders are forced to move out of their seats en masse to create the singing section.

PS. As I remembered Block 113 not available to ST's coloured white on ST map, send the hard core to 113.

 
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SirPercyHotspur said:
If I remember rightly when ST's went on sale when the stadium opened no ST's were offered in block 113 which is the block next to the away support, the whole block was made only available to members in the members sale , if fans want to go and hurl abuse at away fans and sing why not choose to sit in block 113.
Am assuming that it is thought that the away fans are the hardcore , my neighbour goes to almost every away game but he doesn't want to sit in the south to sing prefers to sit in the upper tier.

The club have attempted a singing section in the south stand but had limited response , it's all in the FAB minutes.


Significant paragraph from the minutes..

Club wants to take a fair approach for all fans and cannot mandate that thousands of Season Ticket Holders are forced to move out of their seats en masse to create the singing section.

PS. As I remembered Block 113 not available to ST's coloured white on ST map, send the hard core to 113.

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I thought the club had a introduced a Premier-League-games-only ST in section 113 and above a couple of years back, but I may have that wrong.
I think using 113 for a 'singing section' has been discussed. One of the issues is that it is not a safe standing area, so technically anyone in that block needs to be seated, which is not what people moving from the South will want.
The stewards in the North stand are pretty good on the whole these days (at least where I sit) and turn a blind eye to standing during 'big' games, but do enforce sitting down for other games. Which is fair enough as it's not actually a standing area.

Ultimately the noise has to start from the South stand. Any other pockets of singing are just not heard around the rest of the ground.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I thought the club had a introduced a Premier-League-games-only ST in section 113 and above a couple of years back, but I may have that wrong.
I think using 113 for a 'singing section' has been discussed. One of the issues is that it is not a safe standing area, so technically anyone in that block needs to be seated, which is not what people moving from the South will want.
The stewards in the North stand are pretty good on the whole these days (at least where I sit) and turn a blind eye to standing during 'big' games, but do enforce sitting down for other games. Which is fair enough as it's not actually a standing area.

Ultimately the noise has to start from the South stand. Any other pockets of singing are just not heard around the rest of the ground.
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The current 25/26 ST price list does not show any prices for 113 so I assume it is still only available for the members sale, suppose the answer is put in safe standing in block 113 but then 112 might be effected.
There is no problem with the atmospere when we are doing well, Man C in CL , Woolwich when we last beat them , the league cup games last season were also pretty good.

 
Maybe the atmosphere is not always that hot at our place but I reckon the dressing room showeres are. :D

Arsenal have apologised to Atletico Madrid after a hot water failure at Emirates Stadium left the Spanish side heading to their hotel for showers following a training session.
 
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