Frank Give him time or get rid?

[thfcsteff]

If we accept that, we accept that the Champions League is the only European competition worth winning. That’s ridiculous to me.

Jose Mourinho has won everything in the game. He talked up winning the Conference League with Roma. West Ham celebrated it massively. It’s a level or two below the Europa League.

To win any European competition is a magnificent achievement and you’ll rarely hear pros or people in the game talking it down. Yet, for some reason, some of our fans seem to want to.

It’s bizarre mate. I genuinely don’t get it.

 

[Muttley]

It’s simple.
You either believe Thomas Frank will introduce a different type of football to the club when he gets the services of Deki and Maddison back, or you don’t.
That in turn is based on how you view his time at Brentford matched with what we’ve seen so far this season.
Perhaps the only other factor is how much stock you put into the turbulence around him, and how much that has disrupted his plans.

Not for me. There's eleven players on that pitch and it won't be down to just a couple of positions that changes it tactically. I think there are many different gears we can find based on available personnel.

The first obvious different ones that come to mind are having a leftie at left back and having a proper number 9 in Solanke. So something like this team

Vic
Porro, Romero, VDV, Udogie
Palhinha, Gallagher
Bergval, Xavi, Tel
Solanke

We have to hope Kulu does start being re-introduced and that Xavi keeps making progress. Then Frank is more than likely going to have more weekdays to work with these players and implement change. Then there is always that potential that we do sign another attacker this window.

I'm not expecting to see possession based, pressing football this season. I do think we'll see something way more fluid and consistent though.

 

[robp135]

If we accept that, we accept that the Champions League is the only European competition worth winning. That’s ridiculous to me.

Jose Mourinho has won everything in the game. He talked up winning the Conference League with Roma. West Ham celebrated it massively. It’s a level or two below the Europa League.

To win any European competition is a magnificent achievement and you’ll rarely hear pros or people in the game talking it down. Yet, for some reason, some of our fans seem to want to.

Conference League would be great for this young squad. Go into next season with a Prem squad and a Conference league group who can then come in to support the 1st Team.

1st Team / Youth Team
1. New Keeper / Kinsky
2. Porro / Byfield
3. Spence / Abbot
4. Udogie / Souza
5. Romero / Takei
6. VDV / Vuskovic
7. New CDM / Gray
8. Gallagher / Bergvall
9. Maddison / Devine
10. Kulusevski / W.Barnett
11. Xavi / Moore
12. Kudus / Odobert
13. New LW / Tel
14. Solanke / Lankshear

 

[Muttley]

Conference League would be great for this young squad.

We're 6 points from 5th, and 8 points from 4th. 17 games left.

We have to still believe that we can turn this around.

 

[Raziel]

We're 6 points from 5th, and 8 points from 4th. 17 games left.

We have to still believe that we can turn this around.

This squad can, not sure this manager will.

It will be an interesting experiment, United were in a better position than us, fired the manager, gambled on interim, we were in a worse position, have decided to stick/stumble with manager, will see who was right at end of season.

 

[robp135]

We're 6 points from 5th, and 8 points from 4th. 17 games left.

We have to still believe that we can turn this around.

Players have lost faith in this manager. Maybe 2 proper signings we see something different. But the big characters in the dressing room are injured or legit hate the guy.

 

[Muttley]

Players have lost faith in this manager. Maybe 2 proper signings we see something different. But the big characters in the dressing room are injured or legit hate the guy.

Don't agree. Our big players / leaders are guys like Romero, VDV, Porro, Solanke and they're fit. The 2 talismen missing are Kulu and Madds. Hopefully we'll get the former back soon.

I think Richi can have his moments as a big character. He has passion. I'd like to see way more of it from Kudus, Bents and a few others. They've not shown enough. Ditto with Spence and Xavi who are at least fit but rarely show that big character to go with their abilities.

I don't see faith lost in this manager by the players. There is something not right though.

 

[Mikey10]

Don't agree. Our big players / leaders are guys like Romero, VDV, Porro, Solanke and they're fit. The 2 talismen missing are Kulu and Madds. Hopefully we'll get the former back soon.

I think Richi can have his moments as a big character. He has passion. I'd like to see way more of it from Kudus, Bents and a few others. They've not shown enough. Ditto with Spence and Xavi who are at least fit but rarely show that big character to go with their abilities.

I don't see faith lost in this manager by the players. There is something not right though.

We’re seeing what happens with all of our star players over the past 20 years or so (bar Sonny). They eventually work out that the club doesn’t have the required level of ambition on the field, get fed up with being strung along (see Romero’s ‘lies’ comment last week) and so they become unhappy. Romero and VDV will both be angling for moves in the summer, no doubt.