Circus ManUnitus - Nobody's At The Wheel

[glorygloryeze]

I think it's mainly because he's a brick manager

He's the best PL manager THFC has ever had, despite the lack of trophies, so...

 

[Bedfordspurs]

He's the best PL manager THFC has ever had, despite the lack of trophies, so...

He is
But we still don’t know and will never know how much of that is stars aligning
He inherited so many good players and the very best took to him so well
It was such a high period
But it was a a combination of him and his team and the right players

 

[glorygloryeze]

He is
But we still don’t know and will never know how much of that is stars aligning
He inherited so many good players and the very best took to him so well
It was such a high period
But it was a a combination of him and his team and the right players

Yep, but until another THFC manager surpasses his second place finish plus constant top 4/CL participations, well...

 

[johnaliola]

He is
But we still don’t know and will never know how much of that is stars aligning
He inherited so many good players and the very best took to him so well
It was such a high period
But it was a a combination of him and his team and the right players

And a fortuitous low point in all the other top teams cycles.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Well, Step 1 complete. Carrick has gone.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

And a fortuitous low point in all the other top teams cycles.

Again that’s hard to judge
Because not every team is at the top
Look at the league right now and you can see that by some way

 

[Robbo]

That's a shame. Wanted him to keep steering them towards relegation. A new manager might be the kick up the backside their players need, although as many have pointed out, their problems are much bigger than just the manager/players.

 

[glorygloryeze]

And a fortuitous low point in all the other top teams cycles.

Again that’s hard to judge
Because not every team is at the top
Look at the league right now and you can see that by some way

I'd say the quality and competitiveness at the top of the Premier League was more then than it is now...

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I'd say the quality and competitiveness at the top of the Premier League was more then than it is now...

100%
That why I don’t think it’s fair
Have to look at everything based on the circumstances at the time
Poch Inherited some amazing players
But he also had to make it work
The players also had to buy in to what he wanted
And he also had to convince the fans
Many variables all aligned and he has to have massive credit from that

 

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

100%
That why I don’t think it’s fair
Have to look at everything based on the circumstances at the time
Poch Inherited some amazing players
But he also had to make it work
The players also had to buy in to what he wanted
And he also had to convince the fans
Many variables all aligned and he has to have massive credit from that

I think he inherited amazing talent and potential but I don’t think it’s fair to say amazing players. It was what Poch did to help those players reach their potential that made them amazing, because they weren’t the same level under AVB or Sherwood.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I think he inherited amazing talent and potential but I don’t think it’s fair to say amazing players. It was what Poch did to help those players reach their potential that made them amazing, because they weren’t the same level under AVB or Sherwood.

Again
Now way of knowing that for a fact
But it needed eveything to align
and they were arguably less experienced before he came in and maybe the progression, partly, came from what had happened previously
I’m not knocking Poch. I loved the guy And we did the wrong thing (for the right reasons) sacking him

 

[glorygloryeze]

I think he inherited amazing talent and potential but I don’t think it’s fair to say amazing players. It was what Poch did to help those players reach their potential that made them amazing, because they weren’t the same level under AVB or Sherwood.

This, and it seems many forget how we went from being seen as 'easy 3 points' when we played many of our rivals to them knowing hang on, we'll be in a proper game here.

The upturn of our consistent PL standings started from Jol (regular 5th placed finshes and expectations to achieve that as a given) to Harry (and his making our home games vs Chelsea and Arsenal more tricky for them) to AVB (wins away at Old Trafford and giving a now doped-City better challenges) to Poch (regular home wins vs Chelsea, Arsenal AND Man Utd and genuine fear/respect for us from others at the top of the table).
Poch took what we had and stepped things up a level...a level we have yet to reach since even with greater spend/resources.

Poch wasn't without faults of course and his public statements about 'trophies aren't going to change our lives' absolutely haunt...but at the very least he should have the RESPECT from any Spurs - at the very least until we get another manger than can get consecutive top 3/4 finishes 4 years in a row

 

[jts1882]

There was a period where nearly all the new England players had played under Pochettino at Southampton or Spurs. Getting young players to develop their full potential is one of his strengths, and why it worked so well with us (possibly too well).

I'm not sure this strength will be useful at United. I'd say Chelsea's young squad would be a better match. Regardless, I'm sure he will get them out of the relegation zone soon enough, which might meet the Glazer's financial expectations.