American politics

[Mikey10]

Just as simple, as he needs some media training because he, of course, knows exactly what is coming. The comparison to Burnham was how he has adapted over time and matured. I still wouldn't trust him with a bargepole but then I have little trust for most of them. The 'In America' bit is because this sort of outburst and bheaviour has been normalised in America over the last decade with all the name calling, cries of fake news, attacks on the press etc. We see in equal measures the polarisation and division that has been created in America. Veiled questions about his name and ethnicity should be hugely beneficial, handled well but instead the response was insular and even slightly jingoistic. Yes the Dem party who gave America Biden, when they/we needed anything but Biden.

I didn’t like his victory speech either. We need a move away from aggressive triumphalism, not a doubling down on as it as normal, as you say.

 

[robp135]

I like Hakeem Jeffries.

Why?

 

[thfcsteff]

Just as simple, as he needs some media training because he, of course, knows exactly what is coming.

He's had plenty.
This was a new experience for a relatively 'new' politician/spokesperson (he's not been on the international stage before). Iagree he needs to learn, but honestly, I think it's naive to think he needs media training when he's had it already (again, could do with learning from this specific moment).

The comparison to Burnham was how he has adapted over time and matured.

Got it. I think he'll do so much faster. He has to. He's got a 'brown name'.

I still wouldn't trust him with a bargepole but then I have little trust for most of them.

Got it. 'Trust' is indeed hard to find in that landscape.

The 'In America' bit is because this sort of outburst and bheaviour has been normalised in America over the last decade with all the name calling, cries of fake news, attacks on the press etc. We see in equal measures the polarisation and division that has been created in America.

Never forget, the true architect of the acceptance of Trumpism was Farage, who designed the campaign which led to the action that started this belief amongst the tosseratti that extreme populism could work in the mainstream. I think you're slipping into the 'yanks' thing. I get it, there is certainly a different culture in the US, but I think the only true purveyors have been the Trumpian Republicans. I don't believe they're reflective of America as a whole. Thankfully the midterms have hopefully shown that to the world??? With regards to polarisation and division, that's sadly everywhere. I agree the orange man is the loudest in driving, but it's everywhere...

Veiled questions about his name and ethnicity should be hugely beneficial, handled well but instead the response was insular and even slightly jingoistic. Yes the Dem party who gave America Biden, when they/we needed anything but Biden.

I don't care who you are, or how measured you are, there's only so many times (especially during a new run in new spotlights) that you can have your ethnicity targeted before you'll likely snap. Trust me. He will absolutely have to learn and be cooler, but I disagree with your judgement of it TBH. As for Biden, yes, easy to say in hindsight but who was there to win the vote and break Trump's first cycle? Who would you have nominated? I think the biggest issue was letting him stick around too long! That change should've been made earlier IMO.
Good conversation...

 

[thfcsteff]

Why?

I'll be back to you when I don't misspell his name LOL (Hakeen!)...he strikes me as someone who might be able to bridge the divide without selling out. Who knows, we shall see...