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Anthony Gardner
You notice how all the lunatics have the same boss. Where did he find them all
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American politics
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Rorschach
Mel Hopkins
Flys on brick
MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
The whole ""what are you doing for the victims" "Have you seen the Dow" or whatever it was, that is mentally deranged
ricky2tricky4city
Barry Daines
Its the work of people that never think they've done anything wrong, always think they're right, concede nothing, care about no one but themselves.
MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
The ranting and raving over the HT show at the NFL is a weird look, loads of loss of head over it
Jurgen the German
George Hunt
I was very underwhelmed when they announced it was Bad Bunny at the HT show, but I was pleasantly surprised and I thought it was a really good performance. Barely understood a word of it but I didn’t necessarily need to. I could understand what he was saying about community, family etc. As usual, Trump is focusing on the wrong thing.
Genuinely only seen liberal people I know complaining about conservatives complaining about it and didn’t see a single conservative person I know have anything to say about it.
thfcsteff
Ralph Coates
Who is the 'we'? Us? There's millions of 'we's out there who have no clue whatsoever about a large percentage of things which seem definitive to us. That is why we're here.
Sure…anyone that’s paid enough attention.
Rorschach
Mel Hopkins
And he is a paedo.
thfcsteff
Ralph Coates
Again, I think your assumption is too great.
The US has vast, vast areas where attention is not paid or (worse still) it is easily manipulated. Joe Rogan became a truthsayer for many (he was not alone).
Those rural areas are probably more clued up on Epstein than anywhere else.
SteveAWOL
Erik Thorstvedt
The rats continue to flee his sinking ship, hopefully Trump’s intention to cancel the mid-terms will be thwarted so he’ll be royally routed
Rorschach
Mel Hopkins
MTG is interesting. She is a piece of brick, no doubt about it. She is on the redemption tour now , but it is all self-serving. She sees the end of MAGA looming and is positioning herself to get through it.
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thfcsteff
Ralph Coates
In what sense?
What makes you say that?
I want to understand your perspective before entering a discussion.
I am sure there were people on the left who cared about it. But until about 6 months ago when Trump engaged in his cover up attempt, Epstein and the release of the files was predominantly an issue of importance to the Libertarian & right leaning conservatives. Both in terms of the public and independent media. As an example, prior to Trump becoming President again, Epstein is only mentioned 26 times on this forum between Nov 2020 to 2024.
You joke about Rogan, but his audience are the type of people that cared about Epstein prior to this year and Trumps dwindling popularity is largely due to this issue.
People with those views live everywhere but are most common in rural areas.
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thfcsteff
Ralph Coates
Where did I joke about Rogan?
I was stating a fact, the same fact that started to ring very, very true once Farage got Cameron to buy the Brexit referendum and showed Bannon that this sort of thing could actually be pulled off!
I have to also say, I think your read of the Epstein situation is wrong (I believe you are buying a narrative which has been served up on that one, there's a counter-narrative led by Ro Khanna which points out how many times transparency was sought and pushed for as early as 2019 from several folks in congress).
I think it's also probably worth noting that perhaps one of the bigger reasons you didn't see as much focus on Epstein between 2020 and 2024 was a) because there was a global pandemic which was taking a lot of the limelight, b) the internet was busy generating the sort of 'information' which was absorbed tenfold by billions of people globally and has seen us land in the current world we live in, and c) there was an election being run. In that specific context, the likes of Rogan became vital parts of the election narratives being pushed by both sides, a narrative that didn't especially put pressure for the full Epstein files to be released.
Personally, I think the darkest element of the Epstein files is that regardless of whose name is linked, and what details are shown even behind redactions, nothing seems to trigger much of anything other than a gasp before everyone is on to something else. I don't care what side of the political spectrum you're on, or how 'cool and famous' you might be, I think all those involved with Epstein and Maxwell should be outed and punished.
It is a damning indictment of the state of humanity really, just sad and awful.
(It's probably only fair I disclose that I am an ex-pat myself (nearly 40 years) who gets back home a few times a year - hence I still manage to catch my share of games over time.)
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